http://www.ukip.org/100_days_till_the_election_100_reasons_to_vote_ukip
Reintroduce smoking in bars... hope not but the rest is all good.. but probably impossible.
So the answer for me is no. (if I could vote)
If I had a vote. NO
Poll taken yesterday by YouGov for The Sun
Conservative 34%
Labour 33%
UKIP 14%
Greens 7%
Lib Dems 7%
It does sound like a UKIP researcher has gone into a Wetherspoon pub on a monday afternoon and asked a few customers, dressed in the obligitory antique leather jackets, tracksuit bottoms and slippers, their opinion.
14% of the vote and they (UKIP) are only expected to win 2 seats, meanwhile the SNP are forcast to get 53 seats and will then form a coalitition with the two ED's.
Interesting stuff....
NO........ ,normaly politicos do manage to join the bullshxt dots up.... this lot carnt do 2 plus 2 unless it makes a polish & romanian 5
hopefully they will be over taken by the green party and frack off along with the frackers that whant to poisen the earth.....again.
morning citizens :tiphat:
No
NO NO NO.
Find another Maggie and I would be tempted to change my mind, but there is no sign on the horizon of that in any of the parties.
I'm tempted coz I think Farage is great, but they are too far to the right and could only have any power soon, if they formed a coalition with the Tories. I do like most of the "reasons to vote UKIP" :tiphat:
Yes if only to give the others a kick up the backside, Cameron is to weak on Europe, can't see him getting any changes, the least said about the 2 Eds the better. The Greens would tax us to oblivion. The Lib Dems nothing about them I like. Hey Ho what can we do?
NO NEVER.
I tend to agree with Sallyb. :wave. Most people I talk to around here say they are seriously considering voting UKIP both as a protest vote and because they are fed up with all three main parties. Don't vote for the Greens, we'll all have to give up our personal transport and will be taxed to the limit. They are in cloud cuckoo land :crazy:
NO,No and then No again. Not got a clue, they are just making up numbers to please the UK gullible electorate. lots of them are ex members of the British National party and we know what they stood for. http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/danhodges/100268508/ukip-are-worse-than-the-bnp-at-least-nick-griffin-has-the-courage-of-his-racist-convictions/
Piece from the Telegraph which is worth a read from last April.
No wouldn't waste my vote even as a protest, also worried that the SNP would have more of a say on English, Welsh and Northern Irish matters if they gain the Westminster seats forecast.
Regards
Ian
NO, Farage comes across as a total fool
Quote from: GEman on January 28, 2015, 22:59:48 PM
NO, Farage comes across as a total fool
Yes thats the good thing with polatics,normaly a voter gets exactly what it says on the tin......so its never difficult to suss out pre election ,the bollxcks thats coming post election win.
:tiphat:
YouGov poll taken yesterday for The Sun
Tory 33%
Labour 33%
UKIP 15%
Greens 7%
Lib Dems 6%
Just out of intrest,how would a 15% ukip vote equate to punters numbers on the day ?
TVM :tiphat:
Were onwireing ti day..... wonderfull. 8)
Strange thing, although I've always said it, the forum poll so far, is showing that there are more Tory expats than any other (I count UKIP as ultra Tory). :tiphat:
Quote from: webejamin on January 29, 2015, 10:31:43 AM
Strange thing, although I've always said it, the forum poll so far, is showing that there are more Tory expats than any other (I count UKIP as ultra Tory). :tiphat:
yes its difficult this end Jams for us new born Socalists........ ;D
I wonder when we're going to hear from the SNP, PC, Sinn Feinn and DUP supporters around here ?
Perhaps because there is not many of them in this area ?
Absolutely YES !!!
Regards :tiphat:
Quote from: Tetley on January 29, 2015, 09:08:16 AM
Just out of intrest,how would a 15% ukip vote equate to punters numbers on the day ?
TVM :tiphat:
Were onwireing ti day..... wonderfull. 8)
Depends very much on the turnout I suppose. With around 46m eligible to vote and the turnout being around 61% Ukip would get around 4.2m votes (@15%).
The polls say they will only win 2 seats though??
Yes.
Yes
YouGov poll taken yesterday for The Sun:
Labour 35%
Tory 33%
UKIP 14%
Lib Dem 7%
Greens 6%
Think UKIP might get a boost after the latest on the Jordanian pilot >:(
You are right there Webe. It is hard to imagine how one human being could commit such a callous evil act against another. These murdering scum are subhuman.
What this all means folks is another hung parliament, so Mr Farage could hold the balance of power so get out there and vote for the tax collectors you want in
Mike
Quote from: tintin on February 03, 2015, 19:35:15 PM
What this all means folks is another hung parliament, so Mr Farage could hold the balance of power so get out there and vote for the tax collectors you want in
Mike
UKIP are only forecast to get 2 seats, the SNP (53 seats forecasted) will be the ones who will be forming a hung parliament with the two Ed's... now that is bluddy frightning.
The UK might be forced to leave the EU long before any referendum, Camoron wants to renegotiate with the EU mainly on the subject of migration. Herr Merkle has just given the biggest hint yet that "freedom of movement" will not be on any agenda for discussions, and the UK may unavoidably be force to exit the EU if it takes things further.
YouGov poll taken yesterday for The Sun:
Labour 33%
Tory 33%
UKIP 14%
Lib Dems 7%
Greens 7%
UKIP are only forecast to get 2 seats, the SNP (53 seats forecasted) will be the ones who will be forming a hung parliament with the two Ed's... now that is bluddy frightning.
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there are only 52 seats in Scotland under the latest review done in 2013, but for this election there will be 59. Labour are forecast to get 22 of these with the SNP on course for between 35 and 38. Am guessing we will get a Lab/SNP coalition, will make things interesting.
''For how long will English constituencies and English Honourable members tolerate ... at least 119 Honourable Members from Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland exercising an important, and probably often decisive, effect on English politics while they themselves have no say in the same matters in Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland?'' Tam Dalyell Labour MP in 1977
Obviously all polls are different skid, heres one from yesterday predicting 48 seat for SNP and 11 for labour.
http://www.heraldscotland.com/politics/scottish-politics/poll-48-of-scots-backing-snp-in-general-election.1422958882
I'd imagine there wil be another tomorrow predicting something different again, but it all means that we will both be correct in saying there will be a SNP and Labour coalition.
Can't think of a worse scenario, (apart from UKIP), the Country will be bankrupt in no time. Btw I'm Scots.
Carole
YouGov poll taken yesterday for The Sun
Tory 34%
Labour 33%
UKIP 13%
Greens 7%
Lib Dem 6%
The televised political debates will sharpen people's minds, there is so much bullsh1t and abuse and lies being sounded off by all the parties on all forms of media it will be down to how the individuals handle themselves on tv that will count on polling day
YouGov poll taken yesterday for The Sun:
Labour 33%
Tory 32%
UKIP 15%
Lib Dems 9%
Greens 5%
YouGov poll taken yesterday (Monday) for The Sun
Tories 34%
Labour 33%
UKIP 14%
Greens 7%
Lib Dems 7%
YouGov poll taken yesterday (Wednesday) for The Sun
Labour 33%
Tory 32%
UKIP 15%
Greens 7%
Lib Dems 7%
Having read their ""Manifesto"" it's very easy to make statements like that when you are in the wilderness of politics.
Even if they could achieve 1% I still wouldn't vote for them.
Nibbler :tiphat:
A vote for Labour would be an invite to the fat Scots barsteward & his fishy mate.
There are times when I don't know whether to laugh or cry. If the subject of the next election comes up, I'm shocked to hear so many expats, many retired, declaring that they will vote Tory or UKIP. What makes me laugh is when I point out that both these parties would take us out of the EU, which would mean that they would no longer have access to the Spanish health care system as of right. Further more, I pointed out that both of these parties are dedicated to the privatisation of the NHS, so going back to the UK for treatment would probably be pointless as the cost could be greater than paying for it here.
You should have seen their faces..... :-\
...and the alternative is? Are you serious? :head
Quote from: britters191 on February 15, 2015, 02:07:58 AM
There are times when I don't know whether to laugh or cry. If the subject of the next election comes up, I'm shocked to hear so many expats, many retired, declaring that they will vote Tory or UKIP. What makes me laugh is when I point out that both these parties would take us out of the EU, which would mean that they would no longer have access to the Spanish health care system as of right. Further more, I pointed out that both of these parties are dedicated to the privatisation of the NHS, so going back to the UK for treatment would probably be pointless as the cost could be greater than paying for it here.
You should have seen their faces..... :-\
;D I'm afraid you're wasting your time britters191, there are none so blind as those who will not see. Maybe it's an expat thing :tiphat:
At the end of the day........... anybody whom thinks that Brits will have the same rights................outside of the EU are in for a shock,yes you will be able to holiday here,probably motorhome here the same as you can in other parts of the world example USA,however actually getting permissions to live here could be a real ball ake.
i still think which ever party is elected,they will be over taken by EU events and be forced to hold a vote,lets be honest the EU isnt working,some states are bust,others are taking more load than others,you couldent run a buisness like it.
morning folks :tiphat:
"......you could'nt run a business on it ". Tetley, spot on :clap: how can the EU get away for years with not signing off the accounts ? Try doing that with a UK limited company and the directors would be in deep s--t. :head
A labour / SNP partnership would see the UK remain in the EU however many other problems / issues would come of this alliance IMHO.
This is a real possibility and the leader of the SNP wants an end to the stringent austerity measures in place in the UK at the moment.
Regards
Ian
Quote from: Senior Villain on February 15, 2015, 10:59:08 AM
A labour / SNP partnership would see the UK remain in the EU however many other problems / issues would come of this alliance IMHO.
This is a real possibility and the leader of the SNP wants an end to the stringent austerity measures in place in the UK at the moment.
Regards
Ian
You can't be serious ? The SNP , do you know how bad that woman is ? You couldn't trust any of them as far as you could throw them.
What they are actually after doing , having failed to obtain an independent Scotland , is to now work from within like 5th columnists to obtain what they want at the expense of all others.
They should never be allowed to vote on anything apertaining to England.
The Strugeon woman is an absolute nasty vile piece of work, that puts a front on when in public. Absolute scum& that's saying something when talking about politicians.
Quote from: zilnor on February 15, 2015, 09:14:26 AM
how can the EU get away for years with not signing off the accounts ? Try doing that with a UK limited company and the directors would be in deep s--t. :head
It isn't actually true that the accounts have never been signed off.
I am not advocating the labour / SNP partnership, just stating they appear on the face of it both be pro European and she has already been interviewed on TV outlining what she wants to form an alliance with another party. So with Labour's seats and the predicted landslide for the SNP in Scotland they would have enough to form a government for the UK.
They both want an easing of the current round of austerity measures!! so they could well be Prime Minister and deputy Prime Minister come May.
Regards
Ian
Why??
What austerity measures? everything's honkydory here in the UK. Everyone's got a great job and paid well, all paying their taxes, the NHS has never been better, and I like Jameson's after a couple of Spitfires :tiphat:
Not sure about the NHS never been better statement.
No matter what alliances that may be formed in the next bottom feeding parliament, the EU issue won't ever disappear, it may be put on hold for the next term or even two, but it will reappear in the future, only the result will be an even more factured UK, Scotland will show it's hand and try and force another referendum, meanwhile England might be forced to change it's stance towards the Scot's, unfortunately I can't see any happy ending for the UK.
Though it might be nice for the politicians to be truthful on such issues, and unbiased, but this will never happen, as there is to much vested interest by the high ups to upset the apple cart.
Ooh Webe, do I detect a smidgen of sarcasm in your last post ? :lol:
Quote from: zilnor on February 16, 2015, 13:16:00 PM
Ooh Webe, do I detect a smidgen of sarcasm in your last post ? :lol:
:o Me Liz :o how could you? :tiphat:
YouGov poll taken yesterday for The Sun
Tory 32%
Labour 32%
UKIP 16%
Greens 8%
Lib Dems 6%
An ICM poll yesterday shows a different picture however:
Tory 36%
Labour 32%
Lib Dems 10%
UKIP 9%
Greens 7%
Quote from: CT on February 17, 2015, 07:48:28 AM
YouGov poll taken yesterday for The Sun
Tory 32%
Labour 32%
UKIP 16%
Greens 8%
Lib Dems 6%
An ICM poll yesterday shows a different picture however:
Tory 36%
Labour 32%
Lib Dems 10%
UKIP 9%
Greens 7%
intresting Stuff,CT keep us updated :handshake
I watched bits of that film about UKIP winning the election last night. I saw it as a propaganda move to scare people :o but it was I think, insulting to whoever it was aimed at. It may even have the opposite effect that was intended and draw more people in to vote UKIP. Romford's only down the road from me, it aint a bad place for shopping ::) but a bit rough at night and their MP is pretty right wing anyway. :tiphat:
Quote from: webejamin on February 17, 2015, 10:09:32 AM
I watched bits of that film about UKIP winning the election last night. I saw it as a propaganda move to scare people :o but it was I think, insulting to whoever it was aimed at. It may even have the opposite effect that was intended and draw more people in to vote UKIP. Romford's only down the road from me, it aint a bad place for shopping ::) but a bit rough at night and their MP is pretty right wing anyway. :tiphat:
Scary, seems you live pretty close to me as well. What a very small world
Thing is there arnt going to win........neither will they form a coaltion..........however..........what they have done.........is let the UK ,EU Genie out of the box for ALL partys to debat & HAVE to act on
my money is on a Labour win or Labour coaltion,however its somebody forms a" UK,carnt be arsed with polatics coz its all the same shxt diffrent day and faces party "
they could get an outright win ;)
Mr. Tetley you can get damn good odds at every single UK bookmaker on that. Tories odds on everywhere to have the most seats, Cameron favourite to be next prime minister.
My bet would be a Lab/SNP coalition and thats 6-1 with a major high street bookie.......
The fing is the Torys are just out of touch toffs........ with very little in common with netto & Aldi person.
im a Thatcheright ,ie get off yer arse,roll the dise & make your own luck, however i wouldent vote for camron and boy George..... hence im in the political wilderness :)
not disagreeing with you, I am in the same boat plus my MP is Mr. Pickles. win win I think not.
Quote from: skid112 on February 17, 2015, 12:37:15 PM
not disagreeing with you, I am in the same boat plus my MP is Mr. Pickles. win win I think not.
Mi Mams mp is Alan Johnstone,he is a smashing bloke,and if he was heading up the labour party at the mo,they would have a good chance of a streight out right win in May.
intresting times :)
Quote from: King saint 76 on January 28, 2015, 10:04:44 AM
It does sound like a UKIP researcher has gone into a Wetherspoon pub on a monday afternoon and asked a few customers, dressed in the obligitory antique leather jackets, tracksuit bottoms and slippers, their opinion.
SNOB
"Alan Johnstone,he is a smashing bloke,and if he was heading up the labour party at the mo,they would have a good chance of a streight out right win in May".
Totally agree on that one Tets. But if mere simple blokes like you and me can see that, why can't the barmy sods at Labour HQ see it? Makes you almost believe that they don't want to win the election? Hmmmmm, now how's THAT for a conspiracy theory?.....
I'm sure they are all smashing blokes at some point in their life, Labour would make MP's exempt from mansion tax apparently, somehow why am I not shocked.
Quote from: Tetley on February 17, 2015, 12:32:33 PM
The fing is the Torys are just out of touch toffs........ with very little in common with netto & Aldi person.
im a Thatcheright ,ie get off yer arse,roll the dise & make your own luck, however i wouldent vote for camron and boy George..... hence im in the political wilderness :)
Tets, the whole bloody lot of them are out of touch. Most have never had a proper job in their lives and cannot empathise with the general public. They don't appreciate that we pay their wages and it's our money they are gambling with. It isn't politicians that really run the country. They come up with the idiotic ideas and leave the bloated civil service to try and make it work.
The Civil Service and Local Government are nowhere near as "bloated" as they used to be 20/30 years ago, and rightly so. There is still more to be pruned - but NOT the front-line services. If you slashed the political mumbo-jumbo posts from all parts of the Public Service and put the money into productive jobs, there'd be an immediate improvement to all aspects of those services.
Of course, the media has helped significantly in making us all aware of what goes on in the Public Service and with those who defraud "the system", whether benefits cheats or bankers or fat cat businessmen.
And, we are now finding out what Politicians used to get up to as a result of the recent (and forthcoming) prosecutions.
Quote from: byrney on February 17, 2015, 15:37:23 PM
The Civil Service and Local Government are nowhere near as "bloated" as they used to be 20/30 years ago, and rightly so. There is still more to be pruned - but NOT the front-line services. If you slashed the political mumbo-jumbo posts from all parts of the Public Service and put the money into productive jobs, there'd be an immediate improvement to all aspects of those services.
Of course, the media has helped significantly in making us all aware of what goes on in the Public Service and with those who defraud "the system", whether benefits cheats or bankers or fat cat businessmen.
And, we are now finding out what Politicians used to get up to as a result of the recent (and forthcoming) prosecutions.
Agreed Byrney, but there are still tons of "non-jobs" around and people being paid who don't actually have a job, because they can't make them redundant. I know quite a few people who are "On the Bench".
No.
:notopic: Yes BB, that's what I was saying - still quite a way to go, but it will never get to the stage where everyone is fully utilised.
There is still a tendency, rightly or wrongly, to employ a percentage of people who would otherwise be unemployable, and there are plenty of people who have risen through the ranks of all services not because of merit, but because of what particular minority they happen to belong to - hence the bloody mess at the top end of the various Public Sectors now. We are reaping the benefits of the "positive discrimination" which openly (and illegally) took place in the 80s/90s.
YouGov poll taken yesterday for The Sun
Labour 34%
Tory 33%
UKIP 15%
Greens 7%
Lib Dems 6%
YouGov poll taken yesterday (Wednesday) for The Sun
Labour 34%
Tory 32%
UKIP 14%
Lib Dems 8%
Greens 6%
There is no opinion poll in The Sun today (Monday). However a poll by Opinium Research taken between February 17 and 20 shows the Tories ahead:
Tory 35%
Labour 33%
UKIP 15%
Greens 7%
Lib Dems 6%
Prescotts back :o That a Hull of a move and should be worth a couple of points in the poles ;)
Quote from: Tetley on February 23, 2015, 07:49:13 AM
Prescotts back :o That a Hull of a move and should be worth a couple of points in the poles ;)
Punching people is certainly an unusual way of winning votes :clap:
An uppercut to Nigel's chin or is it a low blow?
Is Labour really on a mission to self-destruct?
YouGov poll taken yesterday for The Sun
Tory 33% Labour 33%
UKIP 13%
Lib Dems 8%
Greens 7%
Polls dont really mean anything as previous general elections have demonstrated, when you can have 60% of the elecorate voting for one party only for the first passed the post system usher in a minority voted party into power.
who says democracy works....lol
Quote from: Challenger 383 on February 24, 2015, 12:04:40 PM
Polls dont really mean anything as previous general elections have demonstrated, when you can have 60% of the elecorate voting for one party only for the first passed the post system usher in a minority voted party into power.
who says democracy works....lol
where was this? Last time any party in the UK got close to 60% was the Liberals back in 1860 something
Ok I hold my hand up its very unlightly but the present system of FPTP isn't the most democratic, and suits the labcon
At least with FPTP Challenger you know who you're voting for (or not).
YouGov poll taken yesterday for The Sun:
Tory 35%
Labour 33%
UKIP 14%
Greens 7%
Lib Dems 6%
Quote from: Hogs on February 25, 2015, 08:54:13 AM
CT
The Greens Chief had a particularly bad 'Car Crash' interview with Nick Ferrari on LBC Radio a couple of days ago, she trotted out all her party's views for the future but when asked about cost, she had not a clue and ran into the interviewers Brick wall at full throttle!
Well worth a subscription to LBC's Podcast Service in the run up to the election as they've got some great Radio Journalists/ Presenters that can make hardened Politikals squirm with incompetence ! Excellent !
http://lbc.audioagain.com/
Hogs :tiphat:
Thanks for that tip Hogs - I did hear a bit of the interview on PM, I think she said her brain ''froze'' which must be a bit worrying for a politician.
Politicians should know, that when stuck for words, mention the last administrations faults, even if you have to make some up, she failed miserably ???
She's actually an Australian
Quote from: CT on February 25, 2015, 10:26:51 AM
She's actually an Australian
Ahhhh well, there's yer answer, it was a perfectly normal response :whistle: ;)
A record number of Brits want the UK remain in the EU, according to a new YouGov poll.
Some 45 per cent of voters said they don't want a "Brexit", compared with 35 per cent who would choose to leave. The numbers represent the largest lead for the pro-EU camp since YouGov's records began.
Support for the EU has ticked up by three per cent since last month. There has been a massive turnaround in people's attitudes toward the EU. In May 2012, YouGov showed those who wanted to leave the EU leading by a whopping 23 points.
A poll in Thanet South, where Farage intends to stand, shows he would win with 39% of the vote, Labour second with 29% and Tories third with 28%, Lib Dems on 2%.
OK, do 59% don't want him and 39% do. Time for a bit of selective voting.
"OK, do 59% don't want him and 39% do" - well, Rod, that's more in favour than most Politicians get elected on!
YouGov poll taken yesterday for The Sun
Tory 34%
Labour 34%
UKIP 14%
Lib Dems 8%
Greens 6%
Well between 1997 to 2010 according to MigrationWatch 7.23 million immigrants came into the Uk under the last Labour government that's one every minute equivalent to 5 Major cities (Bradford,Leeds,Glasgow,Sheffield,B/ham )outside of London and that dosnt include offspring or illegals
Wont be long before the UK sinks into the sea yes I rather vote for Ukip or one man and his dog than the party that's let the working class down. :tiphat:
This is my point we keep electing parliaments that the majority of people didn't vote for. The present FPTP, only favours the liblabcon parties, and in my view the system isn't really democratic, PR is a more democratic way to vote, Camoron told Clegg the he would seriously look into this as a sweetner to working with the tories, whether he did or didn't, it's not raised its head again, so the smug circus goes on in the absolute assurance that things won't change, and the labcon men will rule the roost for many elections to come, quietly gloating they were voted into power on a minority vote every single time, and we moan and are powerless to do a dam thing about it.
Well the last time i voted......... my demacratic choice was thrown out and i havent voted since as i think its all same **** diffrent day ,but i really am looking forward to voting again one day.
o and befor some body states that old chestnutt..... if you dont vote you carnt complain ..... thats bxllxcks as well because the full UK state is now set up for "complaint heaven" to sutch an extent that people can X around with kids and no body dare take it on incase they disapear either personally or financialy or both.....
the full job is barmy,i was brought up in a 900 man socalist unoin closed shop,and i have still got most of the values i was taught ,however politics now is just a" power pxss and milk it "
what UKIP has done is taken the political lid off and the other partys are going to have a job to get the lid back on,hence my veiw the UK will eventualy get an EU referndem whom ever gets elected for the very reson Jabba has highlited,the countrys socal services & housing is sinking.
:tiphat:
Labour have their biggest lead since December in a YouGov poll for The Sun today:
Labour 35 %
Tory 31%
UKIP 15%
Greens 8%
Lib Dems 6%
:clap: Yep. Just as I thought when DC's advisers suggested that he digs his heels in about the TV debates. Should've listened to me. Some of them will never learn. What an idiot.
I don't think the "usual villains" will be able to put the lid back, someone has dared to come along and said what an awful lot of people have been saying amongst themselves and thinking for a number of years, and gone on record saying it, the labcon just hadn't expected someone would come along and dare Sh1t on their coiffured bed and they have been found very very lacking in any rational response which joe blogs wants to hear. The only thing they have come up with is the usual smear campaigns, to try to belittle UKIP.
The Tories have now opened a four-point lead over Labour in the YouGov poll published today:
Tory 35%
Labour 31%
UKIP 14%
Lib Dems 8%
Greens 6%
with all these polls UKIP share seems fairly constant, they might just hold the balance of power, I for one would welcome it
Mike
Quote from: King saint 76 on January 28, 2015, 10:04:44 AM
It does sound like a UKIP researcher has gone into a Wetherspoon pub on a monday afternoon and asked a few customers, dressed in the obligitory antique leather jackets, tracksuit bottoms and slippers, their opinion.
and what do labour voters look like
Just been watching and reading about Farage getting into hot water again.
http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2015/mar/12/farage-irresponsibly-mixing-fears-over-extremism-and-immigration-says-clegg
Yet what Farage says makes sense, again. In fact Sadiq Khan is suggesting that we are all racists and wish to see things go back to the 40s/50s :o Thanks Mr Khan :tiphat:
YouGov poll in today's Sun
Tory 33%
Labour 32%
UKIP 16%
Lib Dems 7%
Greens 6%
nothing much changing at the bookmakers, Tories still 1-2 to be the biggest party seat wise, Cameron 4-7 to be prime minister, Milliband 6-4. 1-5 No overall majority.
Labour predicted to get around 270, Libs 27, SNP 41, UKIP 5, Greens 1 & Tories 284. There will be 650 MPs 326 needed for a majority
if as likely its a hung parliament, the previous government stays in power until a new one is formed, this would give thme the first choice at trying to get together a coalition, either formally as now, or informally where parties would give support on various issues and would support the government in no confidence votes
On "Free Speech" last night (BBC3) - where Milliband won hands down (well, he was being quizzed by the adults of tomorrow who will have to suffer the mistakes of the Ballot Box in May) - he wouldn't be drawn into whether he would enter into a Coalition with the SNP, because he was all bullish about concentrating on being PM as outright winner. Dream on sunshine.
Byrney,
The frightening thing is that Labour didn't lose resoundingly in the last GE.
After more than a decade of Labour, we were all witness to the lies, the hypocrisy, the cover ups and the huge mistakes made on every front by Blair and Brown, not forgetting the "social experiment" with immigration, which Blair now admits was a way to increase Labour voters.
Yet they came second, with just 7% less voters than the Tories - beggars belief
Correct Lisa. But they lost - and are hell-bent on doing exactly the same again. The more I observe, the more I believe that they would prefer to be in opposition.
YouGov poll in today's Sun:
Labour 35%
Tory 33%
UKIP 13%
Lib Dem 7%
Greens 7%
Nice honest Tories :whistle:
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/nigel-farage-criticises-afzal-amin-for-potentially-stoking-up-racial-tension-10127472.html
Farage deflecting criticism from himself as mentioned in the article link from Web.
Well they would say that wouldn't they :whistle:
This is what I hate in politics, but they're all at it :tiphat:
Cameron has told the BBC tonight that if re-elected he would not seek a third term
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-32022484
YouGov poll in today's Sun:
Tory 34%
Labour 34%
UKIP 12%
Lib Dem 8%
Greens 6%
Ed Miliband seems to be coming across better lately, even his voice seems to exude confidence. Cameron seems a bit wimpish lately.
I don't think UKIP suffers any damage with all the negative hype being thrown. With UKIP, people will vote for the party and what it stands for, rather than personalities. :tiphat:
"Ed Miliband seems to be coming across better lately, even his voice seems to exude confidence" - you must be watching different programmes to me Webe.
Quote from: byrney on March 24, 2015, 10:09:31 AM
"Ed Miliband seems to be coming across better lately, even his voice seems to exude confidence" - you must be watching different programmes to me Webe.
It's not what you watch byrney, it's having an open mind while you're watching :whistle:
100 % yes just to stop the uk from becoming muslim
bring back screaming lord sutch and the raving loony party at least he was honest
When you see things like this, it is no wonder people will listen to UKIP.
Nice one Webe - you see, you still have a sense of humour! :rofl:
Exactly BB - and that's why those who can be bothered to vote will be listening to what the two main Parties have to say on the subject (of course, I mean the SNP and UKIP).
More reasons people may vote UKIP.
English kids in some schools are made, with no choice, to experience everything to do with Islam, but Muslim kids at the same schools are excused from attending anything to do with other faiths.
The father of one girl that run off to Syria, is a hateful radical Muslim.
I've said it all before, these kids are taught in their homes to hate the west and the hand that feeds them. When we see all those Muslims on the streets of London, protesting and burning flags, does anyone ever think about what they say and do when they go home?
Eleven years my eldest grandson aged 15 was told they had to study some Islamic poems as part of their Literature GCSE. Being a gobby little devil like his grandad, he queried this by asking " as they were studying English Literature surely they should be looking at more poetry by poets writing in the English Language. ". He refused to write essays on the Muslim poets , using the argument that if he was at a school in a Muslim state, he would never be given the opportunity to study English poets. I hasten to add that he has a couple of Muslim friends and is not a racist.
His teacher said that he respected his opinions and allowed him to write extra essays on Keats, Wordsworth and Byron.
Now aged 26, he has strong opinions on many issues, and says he is seriously considering voting UKIP.
YouGov poll taken since the TV debate in The Sunday Times today
Labour 36%
Tory 32%
UKIP 13%
Lib Dems 8%
Greens 6%
SNP 4%
That would give Labour a clear majority in the Commons
"That would give Labour a clear majority in the Commons" - Really?
YouGov poll in today's Sun
Tory 36%
Labour 34%
UKIP 13%
Lib Dems 8%
Greens 4%
A separate poll shows Lib Dem leader Nick Clegg is trailing Labour by 2% in Sheffield Hallam and could be in danger of losing his seat
Just wondering where King Saint is as he started this thread???
Last I heard he was in the tower ???
YouGov poll in today's Sun
Tory 37%
Labour 35%
UKIP 12%
Lib Dems 7%
Greens 5%
You have to be joking right?
Really feel like giving the UK electorate a good slap on the face, just to wake them up and see whats happening to the country. If the red Ed's champagne labour party get in along with helmet hair sturgeons's snp, it will set the UK back a decade, I can't think of a single labour government that didn't leave the UK in a total mess
Agreed Challenger. :clap:
And before anyone mentions blair, the War Maker, he obviously saw the writing on the wall and got out and left the Scottish Baffon, Bankruptcy Brown to carry the can.
;D
An opinion poll today shows Nigel Farage is trailing the Tories in South Thanet where he is standing in the election.
Quote from: CT on April 06, 2015, 08:53:49 AM
An opinion poll today shows Nigel Farage is trailing the Tories in South Thanet where he is standing in the election.
The problem is.... for anybody needing EU free movment rights UKIP have taken the lid off the EU and its not going to go away,ive talked to a lot of folks recently in the mother land..... they have no idea on the impications of not been in the EU ,they just know as well we all do that the UK is sinking with the amount of people drawing from it and needing services ie all including Brits, and somthing needs to be done sooner rather than later.
UKIP are pressing all the right buttons and they are saying all the things out in the open that the Torys & Labour probably say behind closed doors.
UKIP wont get a lot of seats,but what they have done is taken the UK/EU lid off and unless there IS a referndum with a large majority to stay in ,this is going to run and run for years resultung in a lot of un certainty for anybody wanting to live & work in another EU member state.
intresting times :tiphat:
On BBC radio yesterday they were already talking about a successor to Farage, who has said he will step down as party leader if he doesn't win.Can't say many names spring to mind......
How about that bloke with one eye and no hands :whistle:
Nibbler :tiphat:
OOOOOOOHH you are wicked. :rofl: :rofl:
Nibbler
YouGov poll in today's Sun:
Labour 35%
Tory 33%
UKIP 13%
Lib Dems 8%
Greens 5%
ICM poll of 1,042 adults at the weekend:
Tory 39%
Labour 33%
Lib Dems 8%
UKIP 7%
Greens 7%
Cameron had a personal rating of +18 and Miliband -30.
;D That's coz they polled 1,042 Tories :rofl:
So 55% of the Tories would actually vote for other parties :tiphat:
I reckon their mad enough to do just that, with Cameron at the helm and listening to him on the telly, talking about the Tory manifesto :crazy: :rofl:
Whats wrong with our system is that if UKIP get 13% of the vote and Lib Dems 8% the lib dems will end up with more seats than UKIP, by quite a large margin. No wonder the Lib Dems stopped Cameron from changing the boundaries.
Just as a bit of a side issue......... but along the imigrant lines
did anybody see the Dark Skinned UK reporter (bbc 3 ),reporting on a an anti imigration gathering in Moscow............scarry stuff............specialy when they were giving 14 year olds knife combat training at night school.
the reporter lad was certainly out of his one show bbc comfort zone...... :tiphat:
Sallyb well said .
Quote from: Tetley on April 14, 2015, 17:25:04 PM
Just as a bit of a side issue......... but along the imigrant lines
did anybody see the Dark Skinned UK reporter (bbc 3 ),reporting on a an anti imigration gathering in Moscow............scarry stuff............specialy when they were giving 14 year olds knife combat training at night school.
the reporter lad was certainly out of his one show bbc comfort zone...... :tiphat:
The reporter was Reggie Yates, I don't think he's a journalist more a ''presenter''. The programme is repeated tonight on BBC3 for anyone who's interested.
Quote from: CT on April 15, 2015, 09:08:08 AM
Quote from: Tetley on April 14, 2015, 17:25:04 PM
Just as a bit of a side issue......... but along the imigrant lines
did anybody see the Dark Skinned UK reporter (bbc 3 ),reporting on a an anti imigration gathering in Moscow............scarry stuff............specialy when they were giving 14 year olds knife combat training at night school.
the reporter lad was certainly out of his one show bbc comfort zone...... :tiphat:
The reporter was Reggie Yates, I don't think he's a journalist more a ''presenter''. The programme is repeated tonight on BBC3 for anyone who's interested.
Yes its well worth a watch,off topic again...........there is a big meet this morning abought Hulls homeless crisis..........including the Polish & EU folks that are on the street with no roof or help because they dont qualify for any.................
morning folks :tiphat:
YouGuv poll in today's Sun
Labour 35%
Tory 34%
UKIP 13%
Lib Dem 8%
Greens 5%
Most likely result will be UKIP Tory coalition :o Life's like that sometimes, unless you believe in the power of prayer ???
Quote from: webejamin on April 17, 2015, 09:33:45 AM
Most likely result will be UKIP Tory coalition :o Life's like that sometimes, unless you believe in the power of prayer ???
how do you see that? every poll I see forecasts a one seat gain for UKIP, so three to four seats even with 13% of the vote due to the way the polls work. The only way, short of a minority Govt, the Tories get back into power is coalition with LD and DUP.
Labour have the SDP route, thats the most likely. In which case I will be cashing everything in and moving out full time while watching the break up of the UK and the EU. I dread to think how the dreams they all have and the money they all want to spend will come about, it really will be time to turn the lights out. Not that the Tories have any other way other than cut cut cut
Don't really see it that way skid112, Just being damnable, with a touch of irony. I have no idea who's gonna get in, same as everyone else. I just hope the SNP are sidelined. I can't see any point in having Welsh, Scottish, or anyone else parties involved in UK elections, coz they're not representing Britain. Miliband, Cameron Farage and Clegg are for the whole of the UK, while Sturgeon will be a disaster for the UK, coz she just wants out of it.
Could we see one party going it alone without a majority ??? or is that going too far? :tiphat:
Whoever gets in power needs to tackle the UK Deficit and Debt because we were a whisker away from UK economic ruin had Scotland voted to leave the UK. (The SNP would have left us with huge debts)
We cannot afford to be in a similar situation again when the SNP push for another vote in what might be the near future
:tiphat:
Richard
Quote from: webejamin on April 17, 2015, 09:33:45 AM
Most likely result will be UKIP Tory coalition :o Life's like that sometimes, unless you believe in the power of prayer ???
Don't know what news/tv channel you are watching, but Sky News are almost assuming a done deal between Labour and SNP
Farage made a mistake by getting frustrated with the studio audience last night, but I can't really blame him; he must feel like he's banging his head against a brick wall.
He's accused of being far right and racist, yet UKIP's manifesto is the most detailed and sensible of any of the parties.
He actually gives a straight answer to the question "what if we don't come out of the EU" and admits that his projections for investment in the NHS etc. would be compromised if we decided to stay.
He's giving the people a choice, unlike Labour. Cameron only agreed to a referendum because of UKIP.
Of any of them, I feel that Farage has no other agenda except to make the UK a better place.
All of these lefty liberals that accuse him of racism when he suggests a points system of immigration will have his words ringing in their ears in a couple of decades time.
And if these recent news items don't persuade people that UKIP have a point, then nothing will.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/crime/11543768/Pole-who-raped-and-killed-9-year-old-girl-in-Calais-was-on-his-way-to-UK.html
http://www.thetimes.co.uk/tto/news/politics/article4295097.ece
Regarding the current situation in Sicily:
The migrants arriving there are supposed to be processed for political asylum and monitored until it is granted or denied, however Italy has previously been sanctioned by the European Union for not doing so, or even fingerprinting new arrivals.
By law, Italy has to take care of the arrivals, but many of these migrants have no intention of staying in the country.
Few of the reception centers are gated, meaning migrants can come and go as they please. And with no physical border controls between Italy and other European countries, they can then disperse across the continent.
YouGov poll in today (Friday's) Sun
Labour 34% Tory 34%
UKIP 14%
Lib Dems 7%
Greens 5%
Trouble is LisaD, if people are not affected by the immigration issue, they won't see it as a problem. Of course those that do see it as a problem are labelled racist. :tiphat:
LisaD :clap: :clap: :clap:
If I had to choose between UKIP or Miliband in a coalition with the SNP, it would be Farage, Farage,Farage.
Because he wants more controlled immigration he is accused of being a racist. Ridiculous.
I have been living back in England for almost two years . Everyone I speak to , regardless of which political party they support , say they fed up with our lax immigration laws; fed up with the UK being ruled by overpaid bureaucrats in Brussels;
fed up with the cost of being in the EU; fed up with the huge foreign aid costs. If funding to the EU and foreign aid were significantly reduced, there would be more cash in the pot for the NHS, education, police, public transport etc etc.
Webe. Spot on :clap:
It's always been an odd situation for me and my views. I am an optimist, but come across as a bit of a pessimist. The reason for that is because I'm an optimist that's been around. Politically I'm a socialist, but again, I'm a socialist that's been around. This is why I would have to agree with zilnor and say my preference would be a Labour-UKIP coalition :o weird I know, but I would like to "suck it and see" :tiphat:
trouble is UKIP wont have very much say Webe, with four seats predicted. I can feel it in my water that the SNP will be pulling the strings and that is so galling. If they win as many seats as predicted Labour will be wiped out in Scotland, even if the UK stays together the way the boundaries are set up Labour will never get a majority again.
latest predictions based on latest polls
LAB CON LIB UKP GRN SNP OTR
Seats 278 280 20 4 1 48 21
and another
Conservative 268 (-39)
Labour 276 (+18)
Liberal Democrat 26 (-31)
UKIP 3 (+3)
SNP 54 (+48)
Green 1 (0)
Other 22 (+1)
For me a Con/Ukip coalition is the only way for me, but it won't happen because of the way the boundaries are set up. The SNP scare the S... out of me though Milliband said he would not go into coalition with them, do I believe him? we will have to wait and see.
Having read the manifestos, UKIP does seem the most honest and I like their ideas and plans
I can't bear Miliband as he's even slimier than Blair.
He is also unwilling to give us the choice of remaining in the EU or to admit that part of the problem we have with our schools/NHS/housing etc. has a great deal to do with the fact that we have allowed a huge number of people into the UK.
This is despite him admitting to Paxman last week that Labour had made a huge mistake as far as immigration was concerned - yet he refused to put a specific cap on immigration numbers.
I also couldn't believe the Green party last night, attempting to call anyone who raised immigration as a possible problem to be a racist.
If you've seen the manifesto you can only imagine the state of the UK if that party ever did get into government.
Quote from: sallyb on April 17, 2015, 13:59:43 PM
For me a Con/Ukip coalition is the only way for me, but it won't happen because of the way the boundaries are set up. The SNP scare the S... out of me though Milliband said he would not go into coalition with them, do I believe him? we will have to wait and see.
He's said "no" publicly and repeatedly - but he is a typical politician in the Blair mould so don't be surprised if he goes back on his words
I'd also like to see Con/UKIP - well after reading UKIP manifesto I'd prefer UKIP with Suzanne Evans at the helm - but it's never going to happen.
Can't help but think that a lot of Labour voters are being very short sighted
http://www.spectator.co.uk/features/8808521/the-great-aid-mystery/
Even with UKIP's suggested cut of foreign aid to 0.2% (same as US) the UK would still be giving more money than Italy and Spain combined
To be honest the more i watch UKIP the more barking i think they are.......... Farage is a good shipyard steward orita,but the party revolves round him .
all this is really doing is making the Tory right wing..........acceptable.
the full jobs on its arse..........must dash im off to Wicks,is :)
Webe, I did not explain myself properly. I meant that if the choice was between Miliband with SNP , or Farage with Cameron, I would have to go with F and Cam. :lol:
But UKIP is not going to get too many votes as people are now seriously concerned about Miliband going with SNP. So I think there is a strong possibility of Cameron picking up more votes. I hope so :lol:
That's the thing about UKIP, they are just, very right wing Tories and I have to keep reminding myself of the fact. I wonder what the two main parties will look like in years to come? Labour has changed, or maybe developed in a different direction. In my old haunt of Barking and Dagenham, the labour party stood for the working classes, but now it seems to be concerned more with racial harmony than much else.
The new Mayor of Barking and Dagenham, Mrs Elizabeth Kangethe, has replaced Hardinal Singh Rai and will probably do the same good work for the local people as he did ???
Liz, I most likely read it wrong, Mea culpa :tiphat: I think the whole picture is pointing to the overcrowding of the UK by immigrants and has become the main focus for the strain on resources, no matter what shade of politics we are. :tiphat:
Webe. You are right . We both know areas of London that are probably 90% ethnic minorities and we can understand the disillusionment and frustration of dare I say the white natives, who are in the minority and have been for some years.
;D 90% ethnic minorities don't sound right somehow Liz ;D But you're 100% right ;D
My niece was at the hospital today and she said there were 40 women in the waiting room, all were African or Asian and very few spoke English. She says she is "deferantly goin bleedin UKIP" :o
Some polls in UK papers this morning are suggesting UKIP will only win one seat.
Probably depends on what paper you read to.
Here in Burton on Trent, there are more UKIP posters in front windows, than Labour, Tories and LibDems together.
What does this tell us ?
It's going to be a unorthodox election if nothing else, UKIP I think might get a very healthy percentage of the vote, but very few seats, labour will probably win, form a government with the limp dems, or snp and will not serve full term, there could be a great deal of falling out, or a leadership battle, or vote of confidence sparking a very early election, the English electorate will probably never allow the snp to hold sway in Westminster ever again, and the next election will be a triumph for UKIP due to tactical voting and the general mistrust of the EU.
BBC Poll of Polls today
Labour 34% Tory 34%
UKIP 12%
Lib Dem 9%
Greens 5%
Well 30 minutes ago the phone rang and an opinion poll agency was on the other end seeking my views on who I was going to vote for, who was the strongest leader between Cameron and Milliband and who I voted for in previous elections.
First time I have ever been contacted by such an organisation.
Think my answer my change your poll results CT :D
:tiphat:
Richard
I wonder if the news that the family heading for Syria have been arrested and will no doubt, be sent back to the UK, will get Nigel a few more votes? I suppose the father of 4 will be sent to jail and we will pick up the bill for that and looking after the rest, who will no doubt, grow up with murder on their minds. Sometimes I wonder if the big knobs ever think these things out much ???
Webe, let them go, and don't let them back into the country. Those children will be listening to Islamic radicalism on a daily basis . By the time they are 18, they will be ready to wage war on anyone who is NOT a Muslim . I have no concerns about them at all.
Quote from: zilnor on April 20, 2015, 19:18:42 PM
Webe, let them go, and don't let them back into the country. Those children will be listening to Islamic radicalism on a daily basis . By the time they are 18, they will be ready to wage war on anyone who is NOT a Muslim . I have no concerns about them at all.
Tell that to May and Cameron Liz. :tiphat:
I it now illegal to go to Syria ?
Quote from: ajc on April 20, 2015, 21:35:02 PM
I it now illegal to go to Syria ?
Not illegal but not advisable, safer to go to Blackpool :tiphat:
So why are we stopping people from going to Syria,
Or is it certain people of which if any of us have an opinion about we are then targeted as rascist,
Or are the uk government openly showing they dont trust certain groups of which we are told are peacefull ?
I would think that anyone going to Syria, or any other war-torn area, is looking for trouble, or not quite right in the head. It's the kids they took with them that prompted the fuss over them going. I'm not bothered about anyone making an adult decision to go there, in fact I would encourage them to do so. :tiphat:
http://www.thetimes.co.uk/tto/news/uk/article4416542.ece
YouGov poll in today's Sun
Labour 35%
Tory 34%
UKIP 13%
Lib Dems 7%
Greens 5%
Just another reason that some people may decide to vote UKIP. A good result for Tower Hamlets, but is it too late?
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/crime/11557662/Tower-Hamlets-mayor-Lutfur-Rahman-guilty.html
The Police have said that they never prosecuted him, simply for fear of being seen as racist. I wonder what else is being gotten away with, due to the same reason ??? Political correctness, before truth and justice.
PS. I bet there's even some thinking this post is racist :whistle:
This is an outrageous abuse of position by a local Mayor. This manipulative radical Muslim has played the race card for years, and got away with it. Not only is he guilty of vote rigging, he has misused the borough funds, example, giving huge amounts to the local mosques, and there is evidence saying he had connections with extremist groups who want to bring Sharia law to the UK. The local police should hang their heads in shame. They were frightened of being seen as racist.
If it was not for the courage of four local people, including a Muslim restaurant owner, this wicked Mayor would have got away with it for a lot longer.
The neighbouring boroughs of Hackney and Newham refused to have any dealings with this b------d some time ago. :head :head
YouGov poll in today's Sun
Labour 35%
Tory 33%
UKIP 13%
Lib Dems 8%
Greens 6%
Quote from: CT on April 25, 2015, 11:09:20 AM
YouGov poll in today's Sun
Labour 35%
Tory 33%
UKIP 13%
Lib Dems 8%
Greens 6%
mi majic Acorns is pointing to a labour government.... :o great news........ that way ,wi can have the SNPLAB gov and stay in the EU :clap: but we will be out of the UK instead.....luv it ,dont forgett ti vote,yer no it mecks sence....... :lol:
;D Thought you might be givin yer vote to Alan Johnson Tets ;) and tell im te look after yer Ma ;) :tiphat:
Quote from: webejamin on April 25, 2015, 12:19:06 PM
;D Thought you might be givin yer vote to Alan Johnson Tets ;) and tell im te look after yer Ma ;) :tiphat:
classifed Jamms :-X
:)
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:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
:lol: :lol:
:lol: :rofl: :lol: :rofl: :clap: :clap:Brilliant!!!!!
Also saw this. , brilliant. Sums up what the majority think about politicians :lol: :clap:
Nigel Farage has been on the telly and radio more than any of the others, he has come across as being the only party leader to tell the truth. All the interviewers are trying to put him down, but it aint working, he makes bits of em ;D I just love listening to him. His argument for being a non racist party is brilliant, it's all they can hang on him and it just aint working. He defines the difference between racism and anti immigration brilliantly, plus he explains that his party is not anti immigration, they just want to decide who can emigrate to the UK :clap: I wish him well :tiphat:
The thing is.........he IS talking common sence to the Man & Women in the street and UK resident citizens are frustrated with the present political roadshow,but the real point in all this is.................there will be a Referndum,whom ever is elected because Farage has brought EU imigration into the UK to the forfront and at some point UK borders will have to be correctly manged other wise the country will sink along with its public services.
And another point of note is Ref the UK
Can you really see Trev & Dave down the bar excpting an EU saving bank haircut/tax/raid on there savings if an EU soverign state fails to repay its debts or even an EU wealth tax been brought in to help fund the system...............not really.
Reffo on its way.
:tiphat:
Trouble is Tetley, Dodgy Dave said he will have a reffo, but many people don't believe it will be a straight IN/OUT one. First of all, the top bods at EU HQ don't want to see us just go. As Junkers has indicated, they are willing to give a bit to avoid us pulling out and of course they would, wouldn't they :whistle: Go back to when Dodgy Dave made his promise and he adds "If I can't get the changes I want, to the Treaty of Lisbon". I have a feeling that he will duck and dive to avoid a pull out, He's dishonest and his party is like a bag of cats. We have a more austere 5 years ahead of us than the last 5 years, he's already promised that :o
If we're gonna try to guess what the next 5 years will bring from Dodgy Dave, it's best to look at the last 5 years.
If it comes across like my glass is always half empty, it's because I've been drinking out of it :tiphat:
Its in mi majic acorns Jamms,EU " trouble at mill "leading to UK reffo,........ time will tell ;) ( im using mi pound increas on euro predicter Acorns on this one..... just to bi sure :lol: )
The old pounds getting a bit jittery :o about €1.35 today :o ooops just slipped below that ???
Quote from: webejamin on May 01, 2015, 12:37:26 PM
Nigel Farage has been on the telly and radio more than any of the others, he has come across as being the only party leader to tell the truth. All the interviewers are trying to put him down, but it aint working, he makes bits of em ;D I just love listening to him. His argument for being a non racist party is brilliant, it's all they can hang on him and it just aint working. He defines the difference between racism and anti immigration brilliantly, plus he explains that his party is not anti immigration, they just want to decide who can emigrate to the UK :clap: I wish him well :tiphat:
Having seen all the leaders being interviewed on This Morning during the week, they all made me either want to throw up or throw something at the telly. Farage was brilliant this morning and was the only politician who actually answered the questions AND shut up when the interviewers spoke.
Just about everyone I speak to agrees with what he says but reckons it won't make a difference voting for them. Well, of course it won't UNTIL you vote for them.
The devil is in the detail. Camaroon promised a referendem IF the Tories are elected with a majority and that isn't going to happen. That is his "get out of jail free card". In fact I think we have seen the end of majority governments for quite some time and until we get some politicians who care more about the masses than they do about themselves.
Of course you're right BB That's why the Eton Rifles are more clever than average Joe Public, they are the ruling class. It's why the labour party was created, to give Joe a chance in life. Trouble is, Labour seems to have lost it's way regarding how Joe feels about things, but Nigel does know. Farage seems to thrive on being called a racist, because it gives him another chance to tell it how it is and how wrong they are. He was on the radio at lunch time, so I actually sat in the Tesco carpark listening, before going shopping and he was brilliant. :tiphat:
What a good idea ;D
Nigel, Nigel how do I love thee, let me count the ways !
Well, this is one lady who is almost persuaded to vote UKIP. He had the guts to say what so many Brits think about the difficult problem of immigration. We cannot take them all, and we cannot let all the refugees in. The UK is struggling to fund the NHS, education, public transport, the armed forces. So how the hell can we afford to take in thousands of refugees ? Charity begins at home.
That's the problem Liz, evryone agrees with him, no one votes for him and we get the same old same old. If the same % of UK folk voted for Kippers as Spanish seem to be doing with Podemos, where would they be then? And Podemos was only started last year, but people will give it a go to try and drive through change.
Could they be any worse than the toffee nosed muppets we have now?
That's what I like about him= he actually gives a straight answer
Although for straight answers you can't beat Michael Portillo, who recently confirmed that he didn't believe that the African migrants in Italy belonged in Europe and should be put back on the shores of North Africa...if Farage had said that, there would have been an uproar
Then what everyone one is saying is " you get what you vote for" I agree. Just a shame the UK public hasn't got the balls to vote how they really feel just for once instead of being sheep and towing party lines. What you see on tv when the three Stooges make speeches to a crowd, is in fact preaching to party supporters and activists and not the general public, if they were, they wouldn't last 1 minute, again proving the three Gonks dont live on the same planet as everyone else.
Politics what a total farce.
I will never vote nun of them are on my planet they are all cheats and liars.
The country is run by oligarchs don't waste your time voting, a penny here a penny there what b++++++s
UKIP racist scum NF that's Nigel not Nation Front is a millionaire he is an X banker on an ego trip rallying up all the anarchist / racists/and any another turd he can find just to spoil the voting. ++=
You would have enjoyed the BBC Asia political thing on freeview 131 last night cheekychops. It was an all Asian minority groups, having their own inquisition with all the UK Asian political reps. They all had one thing in common, that was, they all want representation in the UK parliament. Indians want one, Pakistanis want one, all the different religions want one each. Of course not many liked the UKIP Asian bloke, but many thought there were too many Poles and Romanians in the UK. When asked if there were too many immigrants in the UK, about 3 put their hands up :o
The thing was, they all rightly called themselves British, as most were born in the UK, but they weren't satisfied with their ethnic representation in Parliament ??? I watched it all, but still couldn't figure out the point in the programme, although I was given the feeling that I don't belong here any more ???
Thats a bit of a sad remark Webe, luckily I see the area I live in as being mostly unchanged, some may call it quaint, others, not representative of modern UK, I dont care what others think, I like where I live, very English, may be a bit old fashioned but home. And im proud of my home town and county, one of the most under populated counties in England, and the biggest inland county in the UK...89% rural.
This is an interesting read
http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2015/may/02/nigel-farage-i-thought-miliband-would-offer-eu-referendum
Sky News poll of polls tonight gives the Tories a 1% lead over Labour, 34-33%, but neither party having a clear majority.
Heard a UKIP bloke state this morning on the Victoria Derbyshire show that, "it is not about migrants it is about immigration policy", the another loke said "it is not about being racist it is about feeling like I am becoming a "minorty" in my own country", If you put those two statements together and think hard into what is being said it begins to explain what the real problems with immigration might be???
BBC predicting tonight that the Tories will win the majority of votes but not the majority of seats.