New pub los carrascos

[ajc]

imj52 , i am sorry if my english is not good , but i am not english so i didnt expect it to be

[nibbler]

Alaskan, I'm sure you haven't offended anyone with your comment but I suspect that if you carry out your  threat, you will upset the Guardia. They will give you a nice quiet room for the night and the music will continue.
Nibbler :tiphat:

[alaskan]

No not sad just realistic norrie

[NorrieM]

Threats, already, and the place is not even open. Sad, really.

[alaskan]

As my elderly mother lives about 60ft from this monstrosity I suppose they will turn it into anything they want it to be. But I have told the town hall that if she hears any load
music or they get bands outside I will go over and physically cut the wires and that's a promise. Sorry if that offends some people but listening to people strangling a karaoke song at full blast is not on. They have not opened yet so to early to start having a pop at, but I do hope this establishment will be respectful to it neighbours.

[eric blindell]

I guess if you want an English pub your happy to pay English prices too

I think the people go live across the road should have some say..

wI do live opposite the new pub and am quite happy to pay extra for my English beer.

[Trebmal]

I guess if you want an English pub your happy to pay English prices too

I think the people go live across the road should have some say..

[macc]

I never knew this was, or is a Spanish forum, or that Greggers was a spelling inspector, you learn something new every day :whistle: What i remember about pubs and what really makes a good pub, i think, is purpose and spirit. They can be the secular heart of the community, where those of any class or generation can meet and socialise on something approaching the same level, which is a very difficult thing for a lot of expats to do here. Nationality of the owners shouldn't really matter. In any good pub there should be a community of strangers and friends, where hopefully the welcome is the same for both. Drink and not necessarily food is also important because it means that all there have come with the same purpose in mind, to have a good time, engage in social activity and let go of our inhibitions. If this happens to come with an owner who cares about good service and good beer and not just making loads of money, you will usually end up with a great pub. Because in an age where we leave our homes, have minimal interaction with others and come back home again, the pub is the one place we can meet new people who shouldn't want anything from us other than our company. A place where people go to eat is not a pub, or a place to socialise and meet new friends, only good for couples, who prefer their own company, or the odd group IMO. But a good pub is a good place to socialise for all, regardless of nationality or class. Anybody know a good pub here :banana-santa: :banana-santa:

[Greggers]

Excellent last post................also, shouldn't there be an 'as' in the sentence 'i don't see it .. a bad thing' ?
Must try harder !

[lmj52]

i dont have an opinion on whether there should be an english pub in the area or not,
but i dont see it a bad thing,
where as all these people being rude about the idea and being totally pro spanish why are you then
spending all this time on this forum and not on a spanish forum where you could really indulge yourselves
in spanish life and at the same time practice your adopted countries language ,

Hi Ajc
I haven't commented on this thread, but this is a Spanish forum. If you mean Spanish speaking then please direct me to the one you are on and I'm sure we can speak there if you wish? Hasta. And it's country's not countries. So maybe learn English first .  :tiphat:

[ajc]

i dont have an opinion on whether there should be an english pub in the area or not,
but i dont see it a bad thing,
where as all these people being rude about the idea and being totally pro spanish why are you then
spending all this time on this forum and not on a spanish forum where you could really indulge yourselves
in spanish life and at the same time practice your adopted countries language ,

[Jo-JoB]

What would you most like it to be ?  I personally would like a REAL British style pub, selling British beer as well as Spanish.  Snacks, not tapas, pork pies, crisps, pickled onions and sandwiches.  Dart board, pool table and cards.  Quiz nights, bingo etc not a half baked English/Spanish bar but a real British pub. I know people are now going to start screaming " I didn't come to Spain to go to an English bar" well,  go into the village then, there are loads of Spansh bars and restaurants to choose from - but not one good British bar.  We can integrate and still keep our own cus toms !

I would suggest Eric, if that's what you want, and you think that is what the area needs, then invest your time, experience and money into opening one!! There are loads of bars you could buy or rent.

With your obvious welcoming old world charm and convivial nature, it would be a huge success!

[Lampie]

Lampie - hmmm - don't recall many of the Coaching Inns that I was talking about, selling "proper" beer, closing down every week.  But if you are talking about "plastic" pubs selling "plastic" beer, then I wholeheartedly agree - thank God!

As for building one in my backyard and getting the transport guys to bring back a keg every now and again - well as you know, "real" ale does not come like that, nor can it be kept properly, nor sold in sufficient quantities over here to be viable.

Byrney Just for clarity I was referring to the OP Eric's description of the kind of pub he wanted

[byrney]

Noooooo Tets - there's too many Chas and Daves round here all ready....

[Tetley]

Having a trawl around t'internet it seems there is a growing trend in Spain for micro breweries so those missing proper beer might be interested. Hope this link works...

http://www.casaolea.com/blog/artisanal-andalucia-craft-beer-trail-spain

There is a good one at purto lumbarearse,i bought a bike of the lad,and we ended up having a brewery tour and tasting session  :drinks:

[Lizzie1201]

I thought someone said it was going to be called "Porkys" rofl rofl

[Tetley]

Whats needed bryns is a mini Campersoll,  that should really impress the locals............ie pint of speckelled spitfire and chaz & dave rabbiting on the singy box ..............

[Lampie]

Having a trawl around t'internet it seems there is a growing trend in Spain for micro breweries so those missing proper beer might be interested. Hope this link works...

http://www.casaolea.com/blog/artisanal-andalucia-craft-beer-trail-spain

[Greggers]

I hear its going to be called 'The Fool and Bladder' or 'El Tonto y la Vejiga'

[Lynden]

The last thing I want is the Queen Vic in Los Carrascos!! A nice Spanish bar with Spanish prices on Beer and Tapas.

[byrney]

Spot on Jay.

[Jay]

Hi Eric,

The idea of having a quant proper British bar is great but in my experience it would struggle, Brits are a funny bunch and yes I include myself in that, they move to Spain and often resist wanting anything British especially Brit bars, it seems to come with the idea of drunks, sports tv, vulgar language and medioca food, but in fairness I have been to several Spanish places that fit that description perfectly the difference being we do not understand the language and always put a romantic slant onto it. Without patronage by Spanish and other expat nationals there is often not enough people to make it viable.

Getting hold of the British beers on draft is not easy and is often more expensive, they do not always keep well in the heat and there is nothing worse than a bad pint.  Brits are not always willing to pay top dollar when there are cheaper options available, those willing to pay can be limited by the drink drive limits and plod waiting to increase their Xmas bonus box with the fines.

Cards, darts, pool or snooker again is idealistic because not everyone me included wants that's, I can play cards at home.

What you need is a bar that attracts everyone, appeals to the masses, food good quality but fairly priced and the staff must be welcoming, friendly, honest and an asset. Catering to the few does not pay the many bills that is associated with a business in Spain.

[byrney]

Indeed Nibbler.  These youngsters have no idea what they are missing.

Oh Tets your beer standards must be pretty low - Cruzcampo/Heineken/Argus - mate, do you really know what you are doing to your body?

Drew - yep.  Sounds like the place for you, but certainly not Spain if you like proper Chinese food.

Lampie - hmmm - don't recall many of the Coaching Inns that I was talking about, selling "proper" beer, closing down every week.  But if you are talking about "plastic" pubs selling "plastic" beer, then I wholeheartedly agree - thank God!

As for building one in my backyard and getting the transport guys to bring back a keg every now and again - well as you know, "real" ale does not come like that, nor can it be kept properly, nor sold in sufficient quantities over here to be viable.

So, why on earth why would you want to try and replicate an "English" Bar in Spain - unless of course you are in mini-Britain Benidorm where the "tourists" haven't got a clue what they are drinking/taking/injecting....

[Lampie]

The fact that about 30 of the pubs you describe close every week in the UK tells you no one what's that kind of pub anymore. You are probably from the last generation that miss that kind of establishment.

Why don't you build one in your backyard and get one of the transport guys to bring you back a keg every now & then.

:tiphat:

[drew]

I like Chinese food, does that mean I should go and live in China?

[nibbler]

Theakstons Old Peculiar, Ahhh what memories.
Nibbler :sun:

[Tetley]

Fing is a Brit beer wont work,unless its the same price as local beer,i like cafreys,tetleys guiness,i never drink the bxgger tho coz its to expensive and in the UK Pub.............well theres an experiance on paying.

yer carnt beet Amstell,cruzn campo at 2e a pint or even Heiniken at 1.30 a bottle ,best of all the liddles Argus at 65c a litre,.

job done...... :outtahere:

[byrney]

Oh Karen, I do hope you're not referring to our Southern brothers and sisters.....

As for Guinness - afraid I've never been a lover, but I guess it's an acquired taste.  Each to their own eh?

[Karen4]

A little glass of real Guinness now and again would be lovely! Not sure about the "Ah lao dawleen" lot though....

[byrney]

You took the words out of my mouth Karen.

Yes, there WAS an "English" Pub in Albox next to the Church, and all my nightmares of London boozers came flooding back.  Despite the perception, there may not be as many "geezers" around as we all thought.

Now.  A good old Northern Coaching Inn stocked with Theakston's Old Peculiar, Black Sheep, "proper" Tetley's (no, not you Tets!), Sam Smiths and (even) a decent pint of hand-pulled Boddies might go down well?......

[Karen4]

Was there not a place in Albox that was supposed to be an English (not British!) pub, next to the church? It closed, I think. I was there once....once was enough.

[eric blindell]

If you like Enghish pubs so much why not return to the UK.

just proved my point

[speedycar]

If you like Enghish pubs so much why not return to the UK.

[nibbler]

In the main street in Zaragoza, there is a pub that's been lifted straight out of the East End. At breakfast time it's packed with all the young execs.
They may drink coffee but there is beer if you want it.
That's the only place in Spain that I've even seen one. As it's in a city it seems to fit in. I doubt very much that a small village would have the same success.
Personally, I enjoy the atmosphere in the Spanish bars but i do occasionally have a desire for a glass of Bitter out of the pump.
Re the tapas in the UK it's very expensive and usually total crap not a bit like the tapas over here.
Nibbler :sun:

[OSCARPED]

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nice one Eric
If most towns & city's in uk have tapas bars ? why not a proper PUB ??????
(PS im not offended by sod off !!)  :lol: