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Tetley

#1077
i just cannot see how the working business and work force can carry on funding this ,

May said there was no Magic money tree for the NHS.....

yet the Government seems to have an endless UK Tax payer  open purse to fund this Immigration into an already over populated UK ,

then the next point is ,

the Immigrants that were working and keeping uk services a float went home in a lot of cases ie the tax generating EU ones.

crazy  ::)

mind you its not all bad,the local housing market is booming if the price is right with the UK great escape visa folks bringing there pension spend with them ie paid in the realms £,s and spent in euros in Europe helping our local economy & public services.
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gus-lopez

That isn't actually correct Tet's. That is the figure AFTER emigration has been taken off.  557,000 Emigrated so the actual amount of IMMIGRATION whether legal or illegal is 1,311,000.


Tetley

#1075
UK,s Arrivals .

apparently 750,000 folks turned up in 2022 and there saying 650,000 ish for 2023, i wonder were there going to put everybody..... and how there going to finance everybody that's arriving  ,crisis what crisis.  :blank:
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lmj52

Quote from: Johnny73 link=topic=132748.msg780140#msg780140 date=1668517084
The brexshit twins are so unhappy they have stopped commenting on Brexit or lack of it .
/quote]

They seem more interested in commenting about the weather!  :grin:
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Johnny73

The Aussies saw them coming . Fair dinkum.
The Tories are still infighting even with a new broom.
Just waiting and waiting for the UK saving trade deal with the US to kick in and all will be tickety boo.
Suella has given the Frenchies another bucket load of sterling to keep the boat people in France 😂😂
Sure what could go wrong ??
Bet they wish they could go back in time to 2014 and start again.
The brexshit twins are so unhappy they have stopped commenting on Brexit or lack of it .


Tetley

#1072
meanwhile back down the Tory  big house the trade deals are shxte  :shocked:


https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/tory-who-helped-aussie-trade-28494625



another celeb for jungle  :laugh:

and punters is been asked to pay a" ERG  Brexit "tax cos coin has binned it value...... ::)

https://www.cityam.com/without-brexit-there-would-never-have-been-a-harsh-austerity-budget-this-week-says-boe-veteran/


Its so nice been CSE less and  technically & comfortably  dim  :laugh:
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Tetley

Analogue mechanically  trained 1970,s Fitter  dear living  in a gone digital/tecno mad O Dearie me world......thankfully left behind with it all ,enjoying the bliss of NO phones ,  apps and  shortage of the intellectual, wile still managing to hone underachievement on the day to day in the sun  lol


Johnny73

Mat Hancock signs up for I'm a Celebrity and gets a smacked wrist from  the  Tory party. Lots of kissy kissy coming up.
Can think of a few more that could sign up as well 😂😂


lmj52

Apparently Suella Braverman enjoyed the hugely successful Erasmus programme in Europe and then studied at the Sorbonne - the very thing she campaigned on to deny the generations that came after her 🤔
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Tetley

Quote from: lmj52 on October 31, 2022, 10:11:18 AM
The lunatics really are running the asylum  :grin:

looks like it

https://www.shdlogistics.com/brexit/bombshell-figures-highlight-collapse-uk-exports-eu     the  conservative & unionist  party ....the party of union and buiness ..... :blank:
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lmj52

The lunatics really are running the asylum  :grin:
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Johnny73

Suella Braverman was named after Sue Ellen Ewing from the series Dallas and even JR couldent make up a dastardly  plot like this one.
If they gave all the boat folk jobs picking tatties or in hospitality or whatever and have them pay tax and pay their way the economy might pick up again.
Interesting week for Suella , even Guy Fawkes might make a comeback.

Tetley

apparently 40,000 boat folks have turned up so far  this year and have taken back control of uk boarders ....with a 1000 yesterday alone ,with some mush petrol bombing the asylum center gates.....  :blank:


word at wooly hat club, is Home Sec,s on sacking number 2 this week ,which will be another record ie getting sacked twice doing the same job within 30 days....  :blank:

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lmj52

Here’s one for Neanderthal, or not.  :grin:

https://fb.watch/gutuqLKPbl/
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lmj52

Quote from: Neanderthal on October 30, 2022, 09:58:56 AM
At 1295 pages, isn't this thread long enough?

You don’t have to read it, you do realise that? There are many threads I don’t open or read as they don’t interest me. It’s not difficult.  ::)
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Johnny73

"" The Moving Finger writes; and, having writ, Moves on: nor all thy Piety nor Wit Shall lure it back to cancel half a Line, Nor all thy Tears wash out a Word ""

Well, maybe not always 😂😂

Neanderthal

At 1295 pages, isn't this thread long enough?


lmj52

Quote from: Johnny73 on October 25, 2022, 14:03:59 PM
Well first good news,. Rees Moggy has left the building and good riddance.
Also Brandon Lewis another Bojo boy.
Onwards and upwards.

Yes those 2 were good riddance.
Still some awful people coming back.   :grin:
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Johnny73

#1058
Well first good news,. Rees Moggy has left the building and good riddance.
Also Brandon Lewis another Bojo boy.
Onwards and upwards.

lmj52

[quote author=Tetley link=topic=132748.msg779647#msg779647 date=16666829

Glass overflowing Dears we could Actually end up  with a New 3.8 Straight 6   E type  made In India as well   :shocked: 

Brahma willing   ( God of Hindu  Creation  :afro: )
[/quote]

That would be good!  :grin:
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Tetley

Morning Dears ,well what a year for India bless em ie been able to modernize the Very British Blue Rince Conservatives and take control of the party and country at the stroke of a couple of ERG Brexis  ::)  ,AND  launching the all new made in India BSA  :)) :)) the BSA been the very quintessentially essence of Brutishness   :shocked:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cunmeboEek0

Glass overflowing Dears we could Actually end up  with a New 3.8 Straight 6   E type  made In India as well   :shocked: 

Brahma willing   ( God of Hindu  Creation  :afro: )

Analogue mechanically  trained 1970,s Fitter  dear living  in a gone digital/tecno mad O Dearie me world......thankfully left behind with it all ,enjoying the bliss of NO phones ,  apps and  shortage of the intellectual, wile still managing to hone underachievement on the day to day in the sun  lol

rt21

Quote from: Johnny73 on October 24, 2022, 16:55:44 PM
Compared to Nadine Dorries and Priti Patel and a few others  she
Don't look half bad.
Another vino barmaid. 😂🍷

She looks fine to me Johnny regardless of any comparison with Dorries and Patel

I wouldn't vote for her but I do understand Ang going weak at the knees and putting his X on her voting slip   :grin: :grin:


Richard

Angleseyite

Quote from: Johnny73 on October 24, 2022, 16:55:44 PM
Compared to Nadine Dorries and Priti Patel and a few others  she
Don't look half bad.
Another vino barmaid. 😂🍷

😂😂😂

Johnny73

Compared to Nadine Dorries and Priti Patel and a few others  she
Don't look half bad.
Another vino barmaid. 😂🍷

lmj52

Quote from: Angleseyite on October 24, 2022, 16:12:03 PM

I'm crying because the lovely Penny dropped out. I'll have a few beers to get over it though. :grin: :grin:

You should have gone to specsavers if you think she’s lovely.  :grin:
[/quote]

Everything is  relative, and when compared to Rishi and a few other she is the more picturesque in my view.  :grin: :grin: :grin:
[/quote]
Ok, I’ll give her that.  :grin: Even Truss, after a lot of pints!  :grin:
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Angleseyite

Quote from: lmj52 on October 24, 2022, 15:35:05 PM
Quote from: Angleseyite on October 24, 2022, 15:09:19 PM
Quote from: lmj52 on October 24, 2022, 14:56:53 PM
I’m just chilling now, having a cold one in the sunshine, before the next load of crap gets announced.   :grin:


I'm crying because the lovely Penny dropped out. I'll have a few beers to get over it though. :grin: :grin:

You should have gone to specsavers if you think she’s lovely.  :grin:

Everything is  relative, and when compared to Rishi and a few other she is the more picturesque in my view.  :grin: :grin: :grin:

lmj52

Quote from: Angleseyite on October 24, 2022, 15:09:19 PM
Quote from: lmj52 on October 24, 2022, 14:56:53 PM
I’m just chilling now, having a cold one in the sunshine, before the next load of crap gets announced.   :grin:


I'm crying because the lovely Penny dropped out. I'll have a few beers to get over it though. :grin: :grin:

You should have gone to specsavers if you think she’s lovely.  :grin:
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Angleseyite

Quote from: lmj52 on October 24, 2022, 14:56:53 PM
I’m just chilling now, having a cold one in the sunshine, before the next load of crap gets announced.   :grin:


I'm crying because the lovely Penny dropped out. I'll have a few beers to get over it though. :grin: :grin:

Tetley

Quote from: lmj52 on October 24, 2022, 14:56:53 PM
I’m just chilling now, having a cold one in the sunshine, before the next load of crap gets announced.   :grin:

:grin:

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Tetley

Sunacks a banker  and will do as he is told by the IMF & US Fed

but its academic now

because we know that who ever is elected there going to be controlled by the sovereign  debt and interest rates on the debt /the money markets   .

:blank:
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lmj52

I’m just chilling now, having a cold one in the sunshine, before the next load of crap gets announced.   :grin:
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Johnny73

Qué Sera Sera !!
It is what it is and only the people of England can change it.
Scotland and NI especially will be a major problem for Sunak but  let's wait and see how this one performs.

lmj52

â†' ‘If Boris goes, #Brexit goes’ â€" No, not with Sunak as Prime Minister

𝗦𝗨𝗡𝗔𝗞 𝗜𝗦 𝗔 𝗕𝗜𝗚𝗚𝗘𝗥 𝗕𝗥𝗘𝗫𝗜𝗧𝗘𝗥 𝗧𝗛𝗔𝗡 𝗕𝗢𝗥𝗜𝗦 𝗝𝗢𝗛𝗡𝗦𝗢𝗡 𝗘𝗩𝗘𝗥 𝗪𝗔𝗦

So, Rishi Sunak has today been crowned the second ‘unelected’ Tory Prime Minister in as many months.

Is the country ‘Ready for Rishi’? Well, the country has no choice. The new Prime Minister has been anointed by just 194 Conservative MPs. We don’t get a say.

Although in the UK we don’t directly elect a Prime Minister, Mr Sunak will head yet another new Conservative administration, with a new manifesto, without a mandate from the country.

He says he’ll abide by his party’s 2019 manifesto prepared by his predecessor (bar one), Boris Johnson. But how can he?

Everything has changed since 2019. Covid. War in Ukraine. Energy crisis. Cost of living crisis. Inflation crisis. Bank interest crisis. Increased taxes. Swingeing austerity cuts. And a half-baked Brexit.

None of that was covered in the 2019 manifesto.

Back in June, Lord Heseltine, former Tory deputy Prime Minister, asserted:

"𝗜𝗳 𝗕𝗼𝗿𝗶𝘀 𝗴𝗼𝗲𝘀, 𝗕𝗿𝗲𝘅𝗶𝘁 𝗴𝗼𝗲𝘀."

[Source: https://www.ft.com/content/d95a0712-6ad0-4a18-858b-dffd8fce7dea]

At the time, I wrote that this was nothing more than grandstanding, wishing thinking. And so, it’s turned out to be.

Boris has gone. But Brexit is staying. With a new Prime Minister who’s a much bigger Brexiter than Johnson ever was.

No wonder that far right Brexiters of the Tory party support Sunak.

𝗜𝗻 𝘁𝗵𝗲 𝗿𝗲𝗳𝗲𝗿𝗲𝗻𝗱𝘂𝗺, 𝗦𝘂𝗻𝗮𝗸 𝗮𝗿𝗴𝘂𝗲𝗱 𝗳𝗼𝗿 𝗕𝗿𝗲𝘅𝗶𝘁 𝗮𝗻𝗱 𝘀𝘂𝗽𝗽𝗼𝗿𝘁𝗲𝗱 𝗕𝗼𝗿𝗶𝘀 𝗝𝗼𝗵𝗻𝘀𝗼𝗻’𝘀 𝗯𝘂𝘀 𝗹𝗶𝗲.

He wrote for his website in February 2016:

“If we leave the EU, we will immediately save £20 billion [a year].”

[Source: https://www.rishisunak.com/news/why-i-will-vote-britain-leave-eu-0]

Not so hot on maths then, is our ex-Chancellor.

The UK never sent the EU £20 billion a year, and in any event, in real terms EU membership cost us nothing â€" on the contrary, it was hugely profitable for UK.

[See my video at: https://youtu.be/YQZHvr8Lhzs]

Mr Sunak also told the Yorkshire Post:

"I believe that appropriate immigration can benefit our country. But we must have control of our borders and we can only do that outside of the EU.

“As an EU member, every one of Europe’s 500 million citizens has a legal right to move here and there is nothing the UK government can do to limit those numbers.”

[Source: https://www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/news/politics/rishi-sunak-mp-explains-eu-decision-toughest-his-career-1803236]

Oh dear. Doesn’t Mr Sunak know that Britain ALWAYS had control of our borders when an EU member?

And all 500 million citizens of the EU would never move to the UK, because Britain would never have 500 million job vacancies â€" the primary reason for EU citizens coming here.

(Now we have a record number of job vacancies because EU citizens are NOT coming here.)

And Mr Sunak also said, “It can’t be right that unelected officials in Brussels have more say over who can come into our country than you.”

Again, complete nonsense. The EU is run by elected politicians. And the UK Parliament democratically agreed to EU’s free movement of people.

Mr Sunak told the Conservatives Party annual conference last year:

“I was proud to back Brexit. Proud to back Leave.

“And that’s because despite the challenges in the long term, I believed the agility flexibility and freedom provided by Brexit would be more valuable in a 21st century global economy than just proximity to a market.”

[Source: https://www.conservatives.com/news/2021/rishi-sunak-speech-conference-2021]

But erecting Brexit barriers to trade with our biggest, closest, and most lucrative export and import market (Europe) is directly damaging Britain’s growth and wealth.

In any event, it never had to be either/or. In the EU, we had both â€" trade with our neighbours, AND trade across the world.

So, here’s the bottom line. Boris Johnson has gone. But Brexit is staying.

And the new Brexiter in charge of Britain isn’t budging. Sunak won’t call for a new general election.

“Plus ça change, plus c'est la même chose” â€" the more things change, the more they stay the same.

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lmj52

Meanwhile Rees-Mogg wants to take the UK back to the Middle Ages.

Leading lawyers have sounded the alarm over Jacob Rees-Mogg’s proposals for post-Brexit legislation that could result in 2,400 laws disappearing overnight â€" including a ban on animal testing for cosmetics, workers’ rights and environmental protections.

Lawyers including one former UK government legal official who designed the concept of EU-retained law for Theresa May branded the move as “anti-democratic” and “completely barking”.

Swathes of laws including equal pay for men and women, pension rights for same-sex married couples, food standards and aviation safety rules could accidentally disappear or be redrafted poorly, they warn.

The retained EU law (revocation and reform) bill will get its second reading on Tuesday. It was designed in such a way that 47 years of laws devised during EU membership will be switched off on 31 December 2023 under a so-called sunset clause.

“A lot of laws are going to be changed without any scrutiny at all by a dying government that few people respect,” said George Peretz KC, a specialist in European law.
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