sky coverage

[Elle1971]

No problems here - still got all our channels. x

[kerash]

 :clap: :clap:Thanks very much for the advice, try the simple things first :whistle:

[eurosatwiz]

As of this morning 10am we have been without any channels viewed via sky. The programme schedule is present but when any channel is selected a message displayed states 'technical fault please try later'.

All channel except ch5 can be viewed via Humax including SkyNews.

We are situated in El Rincón Arboleas and have a 1.2m dish. Signal strengh is good and locked.

Have we lost Sky for good....?

Kerash

Hi kerash
We haven't lost em yet
That's a fault with box seen message many times
Try removing power plug leave 10min
Plug back in may fix prob ?

[CT]

kerash: Have you been on to the Sky web site, there's lots of information about the various errors and how to deal with them. First thing is to re-boot your box, sounds like a local problem as no-one else appears to be complaining.If all else fails you need a trusty satellite engineer, several of who contribute to this site.Sky channels were not on the satellite that changed, they should be as per normal.

[kerash]

As of this morning 10am we have been without any channels viewed via sky. The programme schedule is present but when any channel is selected a message displayed states 'technical fault please try later'.

All channel except ch5 can be viewed via Humax including SkyNews.

We are situated in El Rincón Arboleas and have a 1.2m dish. Signal strengh is good and locked.

Have we lost Sky for good....?

Kerash

[Tetley]

Tetley,

There are as many English Language programs on Spanish TV as Spanish language - especially at night time - we have the option every evening of at least 10 English Language films - not dubbed with subtitles - the actual spoken word.

Yer ive seen them films as well Fred... not mutch talking in em tho  :o   ;D

[The Sheriff ILLIA.]

Tetley,

There are as many English Language programs on Spanish TV as Spanish language - especially at night time - we have the option every evening of at least 10 English Language films - not dubbed with subtitles - the actual spoken word.

[CT]

Sounds like it could be a very happy 2013 for dish manufacturers and installers although the loss of C5 will not drive me to buy a new dish.

[Tetley]

Tetley
   
        Your english still requires a little more work.

Ive given up with English im now on Spanish then hopefully once thats sorted im of onto Chineaze   :)

ne- how

[michris]

Tetley
   
        Your english still requires a little more work.

[Tetley]

We have lost channel 5.... hopefully the rst will follow soon...then i can improve my Sp by watching SP  telly   ;D

[eurosatwiz]

How many 1.3 or 12.dishes are there in Arboleas ?
Well over 2000
Imagine if you will all of them having to change
Maybe it won't come to that !! Who knows
But if it does then supply will dry up

[byrney]

2000 new dishes in Arboleas alone?

Have you been on that funny stuff again Martin? lol

[eurosatwiz]

Why will it take weeks to get new dishes?

Most distributors carry a max of 100 dishes
And have a weekly delivery
There are a few thousand potential clients requiring dishes
Lets just say 2000 that's a major understatement and that's only in Arboleas
Many more all over Spain
That's at least 10weeks work even the manufacture won't be able to make them quick enough

[byrney]

Why will it take weeks to get new dishes?

[eurosatwiz]

I agree with what most of you are saying about waiting to upgrade to some extent
It does make sense
But if the same thing happens with future changes that we have seen recently
Then most people will lose the free to view channles
Then demand for bigger dishes will be greater than supply
Meaning some people will be left with NO tv for some time could be months it certainly won't be weeks

[CT]

APY2: ITV 2,3 and 4 haven't moved so you should be able to get them plus, as you say, some of the ITV regions.As there is virtually no difference in ITV regions these days apart from local news you shouldn't lose any of the popular network programmes unless you are only locked into STV.

[byrney]

Flimflam - "Have been advised to get a bigger dish".

By a satellite engineer by any chance?

Others have suggested its best to wait until things settle down before spending your money........

[flimflam]

We've lost itv, ch5, 4seven and a few others - we've gained quite a few other channels - food channels, really, etc (don't normally get these in
our sky package ) - unfortunately - we still get all the sports channels!!!!!  Have been advised to get a bigger dish - but we can live without the
ones we can't get - can always find enough to watch.  Might think about getting a spanish ariel - some of the channels on that sound o.k.??

[Optomist]

I dont think all the ITVs have been moved so i would try looking for another regional version , we have ITV 1 Wales and ITV London , both still perfect so i dont think they have moved , if they have im sure there will be an expert more than happy to correct me  :whistle:

[everset]

as others are saying ch5 and the other 5s are the problem channels but ive totally lost itv,  ch4 and 4seven, ive since found i can recieve itv+1 on 131, has anyone lost these or others

[CT]

I suggest you save your money for a big dish until next year when 2E and 2G come along

[anneck]

sorry finn,  i am not in the business and have not a clue re positioning of a new satelite. i am only giving info as a have a 1.9 dish which i brought down with me from the costa blanca.  in my total innocence i believed that i could impart my situation, if only to help others who may encounter loss of channels.
annneck

[Optomist]

Moved yes

BBC1 HD England, BBC1 HD Northern Ireland and BBC HD have not yet moved to 2F, and are still on 1N.

Only copies of BBC1 HD England, that will eventually become BBC1 HD Wales and BBC1 HD Scotland, have moved from 1N to 2F.

I stand Corrected , that will teach me to double check 1st and not trust my memory , good to know we have the experts here to rely on or we wouldn't have a clue what was going on .

[byrney]

Exactly Finn.  Let´s hope some people haven´t already taken up offers of new dishes on the basis that supplies might run out......

[finn]

dish sizes, transponders mega this and that!!! this post sounds to me like an ad for companies that sell large dishes  and yet reception seems to be ok as roger says. if all you lose is channel 5 then thats not the end of the world or is it.
relax guys and wait and see what reception you have in a few weeks before shelling out on expensive massive dishe.

[sat]

Moved yes

BBC1 HD England, BBC1 HD Northern Ireland and BBC HD have not yet moved to 2F, and are still on 1N.

Only copies of BBC1 HD England, that will eventually become BBC1 HD Wales and BBC1 HD Scotland, have moved from 1N to 2F.

[anneck]

Still have HD on 1.9m dish

[Optomist]

Moved yes but not gone , we still receive it perfectly . What size dish and make of receiver do you have ?

[jill cockfield]

BBC HD HAS GONE!

[CT]

I wonder if the dish installers who read this thread have come to any conclusions now 2F appears to be operating and little, if any, trouble is being experienced ? It sounds as if new and larger dishes are not required unless you are desperate to watch C5.

[olive25]

An update from SES ASTRA's Website

SES

We'd like to respond to your questions relating to the current channel shifts at 28.2 degrees East and the footprint of ASTRA 2F. The UK channels are currently shifted from ASTRA 2B and ASTRA 1N to ASTRA 2F which has been launched recently and is operational now. ASTRA 2F is part of our fleet replacement programme at 28.2 degrees East. The channel transfer is ongoing and will have no implications for viewers in the UK since the TV programs shifted to ASTRA 2F operate on the same frequencies and are broadcast for the UK. TV viewers outside the UK, however, may see an impact as they might no longer be able to receive the channels due to their transfer to a beam with a smaller footprint. This footprint meets the requirements of our customers, the broadcasters, who focus their program distribution on the UK where they have the programme rights.

[sat]

I am not clear whether 1N has been turned off yet prior to its departure to another part of space.

Not yet.
It is still live with about 15 frequencies / transponders, that are still carrying BBC ITV C4 Disney Nick and some Sky Sports Active channels.

[byrney]

Well APY2, it looks as though those of us who have been fearful of having to fork out huge sums of money to have our equipment upgraded can be at least cautiously optimistic and that the gloom merchants hopefully were wrong.

I will be following your advice and letting things settle down before I make any silly decisions about needlessly upgrading - sorry sat guys.

For now, I am quite happy with what I am getting - C5 is no great loss.

[Elgin]

After a couple of powere cuts I was surprised thar the Sky box came back on without any problemd.  I have checked the default transponder setting and it has gone back to the UK default 11.778 but everything still works.  Moreover we have more movie channels and we now have the full 7 day programme guide.