Good British Brexit News....(at last )

[Johnny73]

Suella Braverman is all over the news again and they even have a poll asking if she should stay or go. All because she didn't want to pay the fine and move on.
What an awful woman to have in such an important position.
Are the Tories so short of talent that this the best they have after Priti awful Patel.??
Still it makes a change from election fever in Arbi.🙂

[Angleseyite]

Must be the rain that's affected my brain.
I still don't understand Angleseyites
Newsflash on the 8 billion trade deal going through.
Maybe that was also in jest or the Brexiteers are finally realising that they were sold a pub with brexit promises.
Now where is the sun.

Irony

[Johnny73]

Must be the rain that's affected my brain.
I still don't understand Angleseyites
Newsflash on the 8 billion trade deal going through.
Maybe that was also in jest or the Brexiteers are finally realising that they were sold a pub with brexit promises.
Now where is the sun.

[rt21]

So exporting 500 million less is good news and a roaring success ??
Am I missing something here.
🙂🙂

Yes, Johnny, my quirky sense of humour. It was said tongue in cheek with a touch of irony 

Richard

[Johnny73]

Ah, that explains it. That trade deal was a bit of a joke to be sure.🤣

[lmj52]

The new UK Japan trade Agreement, Johnny, has been a roaring success up to now.
Latest figures show that our exports (goods and services) fell by nearly £500 million in its first year of operation ##

So exporting 500 million less is good news and a roaring success ??
Am I missing something here.
🙂🙂

It's said in jest. 

[Johnny73]

The new UK Japan trade Agreement, Johnny, has been a roaring success up to now.
Latest figures show that our exports (goods and services) fell by nearly £500 million in its first year of operation ##

So exporting 500 million less is good news and a roaring success ??
Am I missing something here.
🙂🙂

[rt21]

Was that trade deal not agreed and signed off in October 2020 or has something else happened. Good news of course.

The new UK Japan trade Agreement, Johnny, has been a roaring success up to now.

Latest figures show that our exports (goods and services) fell by nearly £500 million in its first year of operation. That's not bad actually when compared to the fall in our pension funds as a result of Kamikase's gravity defying attempt to lift our economy out of the doldrums

Richard 

[rt21]

Was that trade deal not agreed and signed off in October 2020 or has something else happened. Good news of course.
Not such good news from the Motor Industry.

https://www.theguardian.com/business/2023/may/17/vauxhall-maker-says-brexit-deal-must-be-renegotiated-or-it-could-shut-uk-plant

Ang is either quoting a new deal that most of us have never heard of or he is catching up on old news 

Come on Ang spill the beans, which is it

Richard

[lmj52]

Was that trade deal not agreed and signed off in October 2020 or has something else happened. Good news of course.
Not such good news from the Motor Industry.

https://www.theguardian.com/business/2023/may/17/vauxhall-maker-says-brexit-deal-must-be-renegotiated-or-it-could-shut-uk-plant

Yes, Tories making things up again. 

[Sueandandyb]

We already had a Honda factory where we came from in Swindon for 30yrs until they closed it 2 yrs ago

[Johnny73]

Was that trade deal not agreed and signed off in October 2020 or has something else happened. Good news of course.
Not such good news from the Motor Industry.

https://www.theguardian.com/business/2023/may/17/vauxhall-maker-says-brexit-deal-must-be-renegotiated-or-it-could-shut-uk-plant

[Tetley]

Nice to see the £8 billion Japanese trade deal going through 

fantastic Ang ,one never knows we could even end up with a HONDA Factory ....  

apparently Nissan Bos/GM Boss has said guvi needs to get Brexit arse into EU trade gear otherwise uk will loose car manufacturin

do di do di do di de ..... scarry ekers these bright folks once thi get going ......

brum brum 


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[Angleseyite]

Nice to see the £8 billion Japanese trade deal going through 

[Tetley]

Hells Teeth were is  every body going to fit   

 https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2023/05/08/net-migration-brexit-data-suella-braverman-rishi-sunak/   

"Net migration predicted to reach twice the pre-Brexit figures
A record high of 675,000 is being touted for 2023, with some pointing to a steep rise in foreign students and humanitarian visas"

[lmj52]

My God Braverman is a horrible woman. Delusional and completely out of her depth, blame everyone apart from this ridiculous government who are totally to blame. Thank God I don't live in the Uk anymore 

[Johnny73]

Just watched Suella Braverman on sky.Two weeks ago she took a group of journalists on taxpayers money to Rwanda on a junket  with a promise that flights would be taking off by summer but today can't give any date and legislation is not fully in place yet ??
She fully names and blames Pakistani gangs for child sex abuse in the UK with no mention of  the Jimmy Savilles  and the many other UK white folks involved today.
She said the delays at Dover is not Brexit related.??
Must be different qualifications needed for the post of Home Secretary if Suella is anything to go by and Priti Patel before her.
Braverman says she is a truthteller ??? Hmmm.!!
Whatever Labours faults may be they can't do worse than the present lot.

[Angleseyite]

??? What ???

It's along the Sturgeon lines......

[Johnny73]

??? What ???

[Angleseyite]

Just when I thought the labour party were going down the right path, they've gone an scored an own goal, just my opinion maybe, but I don't think so!!!  

[lmj52]

Oh dear, the Brexit boys will love this, lol.

Sorry, it's a long post.
Last night, the government announced that Britain has joined a trade deal so contentious that it united Donald Trump, Hillary Clinton and Bernie Sanders in opposition to US membership.

While hardcore Brexiters would like to pretend this is the ultimate payoff of our decision to leave the EU and write our own rules, the reality is somewhat different. In signing the Comprehensive and Progressive Agreement for Trans-Pacific Partnership (CPTPP), Britain has ditched environmental standards, signed up to terms that will undermine British farmers, and left us open to being sued by multinational corporations in secretive courts. And all for no real economic benefit.

The deal began life as the Trans-Pacific Partnership or TPP, a last gasp of hyper-globalisation. Alongside its ill-fated sister deal, TTIP (Transatlantic Trade and Investment Partnership), it aims to lock participating countries into rules that prioritise pro-market, corporate interests. The corporate power grab was then sold to a sceptical public as a way of containing China's economic power, by surrounding that country in a sea of neoliberal trade.

But, like TTIP, the deal sailed into strong anti-globalisation headwinds. In the US, the last thing the public wanted was more outsourced jobs, longer and more fragile supply chains, and further power vested in the hands of big business. The 2016 presidential election was the death knell for US membership.

When the US withdrew, a few contentious parts of the deal were placed on ice – including rules that would have handed even more power to pharmaceutical monopolies to set medicine prices. But there is much to dislike in what remains of what became known as the CPTPP.

The most pressing issue reported from the talks is that Britain has been forced to lower environmental standards as a condition for entry to the deal. Palm oil plantations in Malaysia are a driver of deforestation, threatening biodiversity including the survival of orangutan populations. European tariffs on palm oil aim to stop deforestation, but the UK is understood to have agreed to scrap the tariffs as a condition for entry into the Pacific deal, in effect reneging on deforestation pledges made at the UN climate conference in Glasgow.

But it gets worse, because the Pacific trade deal isn't a one-time set of rules, but rather gives corporate lobbyists permanent power to force governments to lower standards over time. The whole point of the CPTPP is to get countries to recognise standards as equivalent to each other – and to accept imports even where there are real differences in standards.

Britain still endorses the precautionary principle, which places the burden of proof on the producer of a product to demonstrate that it is safe. Most signatories to the Pacific trade deal do not, and there will be inevitable pressure to accept food containing pesticides that have been outlawed here, antibiotics in livestock farming or hormone-treated beef.

But nothing better displays the heavy bias towards big business interests than the corporate court system at the heart of the CPTPP – an international arbitration system that will allow corporations to sue the British government for treating them "unfairly".

[Tetley]

Israel & France will hopefully re  focus political  minds ....in the UK ie how it can soon go pear shaped if the screw is over tightened .   

I think the British are a very stoic lot, Steve, and just get on with life regardless of the hardships bestowed on them from above.

For me the choice is either a party who believe in tax cuts over adequate funding for public services or a party that believes in the flip side of that.

It is no coincidence that the top 10% of households in Britain are richer than those in many other European countries. And conversely the middle and lower classes are poorer.

What the country is facing is a toxic combination of low growth and high inequality.

And we have a government that is backed into a corner and is willing to take unquantifiable risks with the economy to stimulate growth.

Hence Truss' failed gamble last year with the mini budget and Sunak's aspiration to ease regulations in the City

Some things never change.

Richard

Richard this current Tory lot have perfected hardship in fact they have normalised it for the many ....the election should be interesting   

[Tetley]

Looks like those who were hoping that uk might get back into the EURO zone loo,s like the bubble has been bust,we seem to be joking a Globel Organisation, once in the can't get out.

https://www.thelondoneconomic.com/politics/pacific-trade-deal-will-mean-britain-can-never-rejoin-the-eu-345978/

lets see were we end up in 5 years.....Hunt was put in to sort Truss,s mess out and save the Tory party/guid apprentice Rishi ,hence the NI deal ,

Starmer needs to sort his socialist anti EU punters out once he gets into power ,which should not be to hard now they have had a taste of a collapsing NHS,prices going through the roof on the dailys,roof prices coming down and a collapsed care system plus ....open borders and state tax payer financed  accommodations to boaters from far and wide  ,

i had in interesting conversation with a banking/investment type last week ,recons the UK could suffer de flation as the economy tanks  ....as the person said  the effects of Brexit have been masked by Covid and increased energy costs  in Europe/Ukraine.

[gingernut]

Looks like those who were hoping that uk might get back into the EURO zone loo,s like the bubble has been bust,we seem to be joking a Globel Organisation, once in the can't get out.

[rt21]

Israel & France will hopefully re  focus political  minds ....in the UK ie how it can soon go pear shaped if the screw is over tightened .   

I think the British are a very stoic lot, Steve, and just get on with life regardless of the hardships bestowed on them from above.

For me the choice is either a party who believe in tax cuts over adequate funding for public services or a party that believes in the flip side of that.

It is no coincidence that the top 10% of households in Britain are richer than those in many other European countries. And conversely the middle and lower classes are poorer.

What the country is facing is a toxic combination of low growth and high inequality.

And we have a government that is backed into a corner and is willing to take unquantifiable risks with the economy to stimulate growth.

Hence Truss' failed gamble last year with the mini budget and Sunak's aspiration to ease regulations in the City

Some things never change.

Richard

[gus-lopez]

there is only one question top be asked of candidates." will you use nuclear weapons on the russians ?" If not,having been attacked, why not?

[Angleseyite]

It's going to be interesting if Bojo launches his own new political party    

[Tetley]

Israel & France will hopefully re  focus political  minds ....in the UK ie how it can soon go pear shaped if the screw is over tightened .   

[Johnny73]

Sue Braverman, Priti Patel and Liz Truss are all mother's but that didn't help much in the great scheme of things.
Hopefully a new Labour mummy group might do better but won't hold my breath.
Just need a new group with new ideas to get the UK up and running again and on good terms with their neighbours.

[Tetley]

Thing is ,if the young labour mothers let the uk down ,ie Nandy,Phillips and Raynor the UK really is shafted.

[Angleseyite]

Why is it so difficult for Tory supporters  to see what a disaster this Gov has caused especially in the last 6 years and let the opposition have a go at sorting out the mess which will take years.
How could they be any worse than the present bunch.  If this Government were business managers or even  football managers they would have been sacked long ago.
Wake up !!!

I agree Johnny, it's going to be great under labour, assuming they get voted in of course, Angela's angels will be wonderful

[lmj52]

Agreed.

[Johnny73]

Why is it so difficult for Tory supporters  to see what a disaster this Gov has caused especially in the last 6 years and let the opposition have a go at sorting out the mess which will take years.
How could they be any worse than the present bunch.  If this Government were business managers or even  football managers they would have been sacked long ago.
Wake up !!!

[Angleseyite]

Great to see Sir Starmer has given Jeremy Corbyn the order of the boot, and not before time.  

be even better when he boots out theses Tory  ERG  Brexit nutcases OUT  .....

Maybe Tets, but which nutters are you saying we're getting instead   

[Johnny73]

🤣🤣😂😂