Types of Gas Bottles > Butano/Propano

[DLMcN]

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I would still like to see the thread you saw online saying Repsol are getting rid of them, just to pass on to the Repsol rep.

Yes, it was in Arboleas Life. On 4th April in that FaceBook site, Alan Pearce posted: "Repsol gas man delivered to me today. Only the blue top light weight gas bottles available. The man told me the heavy bottles are being stopped".

So that was a misunderstanding then?
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Maybe not a misunderstanding ... Perhaps it was the lorry which drives all around the village [serving anybody and everybody, including people who do *not* have contracts] - rather than one which was delivering a specific order to Alan Pearce.

It does sound, however, as if Alan did not pursue the conversation [we would need to ask him directly] - in which case he might have learned more about the other options.

... they will sell them to customers with a contract - .... they will deliver those bottles to our house if we phone and place an order.

[steveconway24]

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I would still like to see the thread you saw online saying Repsol are getting rid of them, just to pass on to the Repsol rep.

Yes, it was in Arboleas Life. On 4th April in that FaceBook site, Alan Pearce posted: "Repsol gas man delivered to me today. Only the blue top light weight gas bottles available. The man told me the heavy bottles are being stopped".

So that was a misunderstanding then?
Odd that something on a Facebook page would be incorrect 🤣

[DLMcN]

the issue here is checking out the manufacturer's spec for the appliance  , if the appliance goes pop and propain was not on the usable gas speq ,the insurance co and appliance manufacturer will walk away .....

so check your specs 

Be good, to know if propane can be used on junkers boilers

Thanks Tets -

Yes, the booklet for our Junkers Hydro 4200 does specifically mention propano as well as butano...

... as does the booklet for our Campingaz mobile heater.... I did, however, notice the comment: "En Francia, se prohibe totalmente utilizar otro gas que no sea el Butano"....

so maybe we should keep it on 'Low' if we do use it with Propane.

[shadeseeker]

Agree with Steve , they will never be phased out , so many people use bottle gas ,cheaper the better !

[lmj52]

From a bbq forum.....

Butane burns cleaner than propane as it will only produce carbon dioxide when lit. Energy Efficient – Compared to propane, butane usually produces around 12% more energy than propane when the same volume of each gas is burned. This makes butane particularly attractive to those who light up their BBQ a few times a week.

[Tetley]

the issue here is checking out the manufacturer's spec for the appliance   , if the appliance goes pop and propain was not on the usable gas speq ,the insurance co and appliance manufacturer will walk away .....


so check your specs 

[DLMcN]

I've just spoken to Laura in REPSOL (Travelgas Levante) in Vera: [they have been doing our mandatory five-yearly inspections].

1. For some reason, REPSOL are not allowing private companies [like FontArboleas] to sell the 'normal' [orange, heavier] butane gas bottles. However, they will sell them to customers with a contract - [including us, because they are taking care of our 'regular check-ups']. Thus, they will deliver those bottles to our house if we phone and place an order.

2. Laura found and looked at our file, and assured me that there is absolutely no problem if we want to use propane - i.e. with our kitchen/bathroom geyser and with the mobile gas-heaters which we keep in the lounge.

David Mc

[lmj52]

No they are not being stopped. There are thousands being delivered on lorries every day here. My local garage has lots for sale. Where does this misinformation come from

[DLMcN]

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I would still like to see the thread you saw online saying Repsol are getting rid of them, just to pass on to the Repsol rep.

Yes, it was in Arboleas Life. On 4th April in that FaceBook site, Alan Pearce posted: "Repsol gas man delivered to me today. Only the blue top light weight gas bottles available. The man told me the heavy bottles are being stopped".

[steveconway24]

Possibly then, they don't want to stock the standard 12.5's as they have a regulated price?
Charge what you want for blue tops.
I'm not a regular at the shop you mention,  so just a guess on my part.

I would still like to see the thread you saw online saying Repsol are getting rid of them, just to pass on to the Repsol rep.

[DLMcN]

Kristina [who is fluent in English and Spanish] was standing by the crates of bottles outside, when she pointed out to me that they did not have any normal Butano in stock. And I could see that this was true. Maria [probably Number Three in the company after Domingo and Ana] confirmed that they would not be receiving more.

[steveconway24]

No offence, possibly a mis translation?

[DLMcN]

Sorry, just spoke to the Repsol agent in our area, I asked the question about 12.5kg butano being phased out. She laughed and asked what I was smoking.

So it is a puzzle >
Why did FontArboleas not have any normal Butano bottles for sale on Friday? [only the blue, lightweight ones]... and
Why did FontArboleas tell me that Repsol had stopped supplying the normal ones?

[Penhallow]

Agree with Steve , they will never be phased out , so many people use bottle gas ,cheaper the better !

[steveconway24]

Sorry, just spoke to the Repsol agent in our area, I asked the question about 12.5kg butano being phased out. She laughed and asked what I was smoking.

[DLMcN]

In this Forum, we have already been told that the 'normal' [heavier] bottles of Butano have now been phased out.

Where is the original thread please?

Sorry, I cannot find it... It was just an act of recalling that somebody, somewhere, had commented that the driver of the gas delivery lorry had told him that the 'normal' [heavier] bottles of Butano were being discontinued. Maybe it was in 'Arboleas Life', or 'Arboleas Perla del Valle'.

But locating that^ post won't add anything important. The bottom line is that > Yes, they have now been phased out by REPSOL.

David Mc

[Not_Asking_Much]

In this Forum, we have already been told that the 'normal' [heavier] bottles of Butano have now been phased out.

Where is the original thread please?

[shadeseeker]

We use butane on the hob, and Propano on both our Junker boilers. Never had a problem

[lmj52]

I've only used butane for my BBQ. 12.5 kg bottle, was 17.50€ yesterday.

[Penhallow]

We have used Propane for many years on all appliances including a mobile heater the regulator is the same , be careful about the regulators as there is one with a gold top which has a higher gas flow .

[felipe]

Be good, to know if propane can be used on junkers boilers 

[DLMcN]

Many thanks to both of you. So I'll probably contact Repsol on Monday for an independent opinion.

It will actually be a few weeks before we need to switch the kitchen geyser over to new bottles.

[steveconway24]

I normally use butane on the gas hob, propane on the bbq.
But, I have used propane on the hob without any issues when the butane bottle went and I didn't have a spare.
Propane is cheaper, but like Tets says, check if your appliance can safely use either.

[Tetley]

 defiantly check that your appliances are suitable  to burn propane

I use propane for heating and cutting steel ,it burns hotter  than standard butane 

they use propane   on the big fiesta  paella burners .

[DLMcN]

In this Forum, we have already been told that the 'normal' [heavier] bottles of Butano have now been phased out.

[Normal] Propano bottles, on the other hand, are for sale. Kristina [in FontArboleas] remarked to me that these tended to be the preferred choice in Bars and Restaurants - regarded as more suitable for larger areas? In any event, both she and María [who also works there] confirmed that there would be absolutely no problem in using Propano in a private house. They did have some available there [not many, admittedly], so - with 'fingers crossed' - I purchased some, and will see how it goes.

Those Propano bottles were 15 euros each. Today's FontArboleas price for one of the newer [blue, lighter weight] Butano bottles, is 20 euros.